Magnetic flux formula confusion

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Hello everyone,

In the magnetic flux formula in our textbook it says Ø = BAcosø and somewhere else I saw it as Ø=BAsinø. I don't know which one to use. If F=BIL sinø
why does magnetic flux have cos in it formula. If something is perpendicular don't we have to use sine. Any help would be apppreciated. Thanks:smile:
 
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formula [tex][tex]\phi[/tex] = BAcos[tex]\alpha[/tex][/tex] is magnetic flux
it like [tex][tex]\phi[/tex]=[tex]\oint[/tex]<b>E</b>d<b>A</b>[/tex]
formula [tex]F=ILBsin\alpha[/tex] was deduced from F=qvB or F=qvbsin[tex]\alpha[/tex]
 
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sameeralord said:
Hello everyone,

In the magnetic flux formula in our textbook it says Ø = BAcosø and somewhere else I saw it as Ø=BAsinø. I don't know which one to use. If F=BIL sinø
why does magnetic flux have cos in it formula. If something is perpendicular don't we have to use sine. Any help would be apppreciated. Thanks:smile:

Those 2 formulas might both be fine, it just depends on how is the angle ø defined.

They are however just special cases, when the area considered is flat and B is constant.

The real definition of magnetic flux, which is valid for every surface and in every case, is:

[tex]\Phi = \int_A B_n dA[/tex]

which means that you have to sum (integral) the contributes of the perpendicular (normal) component of B in every point of the surface A.

When B is constant everywhere (does not vary in different points of the surface) and A is flat, the integral goes away and the normal component of B is Bcosø if ø is defined as the angle between B and an axis perpendicular to A (or Bsinø if ø if the angle between B and the surface A).
 
Domenicaccio said:
Those 2 formulas might both be fine, it just depends on how is the angle ø defined.

They are however just special cases, when the area considered is flat and B is constant.

The real definition of magnetic flux, which is valid for every surface and in every case, is:

[tex]\Phi = \int_A B_n dA[/tex]

which means that you have to sum (integral) the contributes of the perpendicular (normal) component of B in every point of the surface A.

When B is constant everywhere (does not vary in different points of the surface) and A is flat, the integral goes away and the normal component of B is Bcosø if ø is defined as the angle between B and an axis perpendicular to A (or Bsinø if ø if the angle between B and the surface A).

I got it. You are right it depend on the angle they give. Thanks a lot :smile:.