Marry Our Daughter - Biblical Marriage Introduction Service

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Marry Our Daughter is an introduction service promoting arranged marriages based on Biblical traditions, attracting significant controversy due to the young ages of many daughters listed, often around 15 or 16 years old. Critics express concern over the ethical implications, questioning the legality and morality of such practices, particularly regarding consent and the potential for exploitation. Testimonials from the site raise further alarm, suggesting that parents view marriage as a financial transaction, which some interpret as akin to selling their children. The discussion also touches on cultural differences regarding arranged marriages, with some arguing that they can be acceptable if individuals have the freedom to choose. Overall, the site has sparked fears of predatory behavior and the commodification of young women.
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http://www.marryourdaughter.com/

Marry Our Daughter is an introduction service assisting those following the Biblical tradition of arranging marriages for their daughters.

Those who wish to list their Daughters with our site should click on SIGN UP OUR DAUGHTER on our main page for a form to fill out.

Those who wish to propose to a specific Daughter should click on the PROPOSE button on the Daughter’s INFO CARD.
 
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Ill give you two goats and a chicken for your daughter.


Seriously though, that's disturbing. Those girls are still in high school.
 
Woah.. the majority of these daughters are 15/16 years old. Is this not, firstly, pretty sick, and secondly illegal? And.. these parents have put a price on their daughter.. you've got to feel bad for the girl who's only valued at $6k.
 
Oooh, I just signed up both my daughters, which one do you want Cyrus? One is a Computer Science major and the other is pre-med.

edit: Both my daughters are of legal age.
 
Reminds me of John Belushi as Jake Elwood in the Blues Brothers - "How much for the girl?"

I'm opposed to arranged marriages.

In this matter, it's the woman's prerogative to chose her sweetheart and mate!
 
If it's not a prank, it would amount to selling a person if they don't consent.
 
Evo said:
Oooh, I just signed up both my daughters, which one do you want Cyrus? One is a Computer Science major and the other is pre-med.

edit: Both my daughters are of legal age.

Pre med are always the hot ones. :-p Do you accept paypal??
 
The testimonials are even more creepy.

“I was SO scared getting married so young, but my husband is an okay guy and I am SO proud that because of me my parents were able to get their first brand-new car and take the trip they always wanted to. I couldn’t have done it without your site!"

—Katrina K., married at 14

wtf, I feel like this site is fake
 
cristo said:
Woah.. the majority of these daughters are 15/16 years old. Is this not, firstly, pretty sick, and secondly illegal? And.. these parents have put a price on their daughter.. you've got to feel bad for the girl who's only valued at $6k.

I didn't click on the site yet...they put a fee up? Doesn't that make it prostitution?
 
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Evo said:
If it's not a prank, it would amount to selling a person if they don't consent.

It also brings in the question of whether consent from such a young girl actually means anything. I hope this is a prank, especially after reading this "testimonial"-- why would such people have children?

“Our 15 year old daughter Mary wasn’t very popular and did nothing but mope around the house bringing everybody down, so we decided to marry her off through your site. Now our house is a lot cheerier and we love our new swimming pool and Jaccuzi! We’ve told our youngest that when she turns 15 we’re going to marry her off too!"
 
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I feel like its a site to catch pedofiles and chris hansen is going to walk through my door.
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
Pre med are always the hot ones. :-p Do you accept paypal??
Hey, wait, these people are getting new cars and jacuzzis, I think you need to throw a few more goats in there.
 
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Moonbear said:
I didn't click on the site yet...they put a fee up? Doesn't that make it prostitution?

Well, that's what I thought, but then on the FAQ's it discusses "bridal fees" which apparently are fees from ancient times that potential grooms paid the parents of the bride. It sounds very dodgy to me, and I'm sure it can't be legal (well, it wouldn't in the UK anyway!)
 
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Arranged marriages are not so strange. Even though it is immoral, it is practiced by millions of people (most of which in religious customs). I cannot think of this happening in a democratic secular society.
 
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The sad part is the internet is that bad that it might be true.
 
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I'd put my own daughter up there too, but where am I going to get $20000?
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
These ppl think it's fake.

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/permalink/marry_our_daughter/

Could also be a scam
http://hitsusa.com/blog/84/marryourdaughtercom/

I looked everywhere there trying to find something that said "ha ha, gotcha!" but didn't. That's scary, but those testimonials sound too weird for it to be real. The scam part is possible too since they say they charge a listing fee based on bride price.

Cyrus' comment about it sounding like a pedophile trap is possible too...that's just too creepy, and it sounds like that's what they'd attract is a lot of pedophiles (those testimonials aren't talking about 14 year-olds finding another 14-year old, they're talking about marrying a young teen off to some older man with enough money to pay the bride price and support a wife, etc.)
 
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Where'd I leave my chequebook? :rolleyes:
 
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Moridin said:
Arranged marriages are not so strange. Even though it is immoral, it is practiced by millions of people (most of which in religious customs). I cannot think of this happening in a democratic secular society.

It happens in India and needn't necessarily be immoral either. In many cases, individuals are quite happy to let their family/parents "pick" a match.
 
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and India is a stupid place to live, err..
and this testimonial thing is soooooooo cheap and ridiculous
 
  • #22
siddharth said:
It happens in India and needn't necessarily be immoral either. In many cases, individuals are quite happy to let their family/parents "pick" a match.

I doubt that those particular people do not have a choice but to act happy?
 
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Evo said:
Oooh, I just signed up both my daughters, which one do you want Cyrus? One is a Computer Science major and the other is pre-med.

edit: Both my daughters are of legal age.

#!&%@, Evo! My coffee just went everywhere! :smile:

What's weird is that my mom was approached twice by parents (two different couples) interested in arranging a marriage between their son and my sister. This is when my sister was very young, too. I think it happened the first time when she was a preschooler and then again when she was eight! Both incidents happened when they were living in Texas.
 
  • #24
So how long has your sister been married MIH? I do take it that's how your mom got that dream mercedes and vacation she deserved for so long. <Damn needy kids taking away all of moms fun!>
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
Seriously though, that's disturbing. Those girls are still in high school.
High school? Isn't that a little old for an arranged marriage?
 
  • #26
siddharth said:
It happens in India and needn't necessarily be immoral either. In many cases, individuals are quite happy to let their family/parents "pick" a match.

"Many cases" is kind of vague. A full half of arranged marriages have to turn out happy to match the success rate of picking your own husband or wife.

That's a pretty stiff standard to meet. If they don't have a lucky coin, they don't stand a chance.
 
  • #27
I wonder if I can get my profile on that site and attract a well-to-do widow or bachelorette...Hmmm. GoDaddy says HITCHASTUD.COM is available! *rubs hands*
 
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Moonbear said:
Cyrus' comment about it sounding like a pedophile trap is possible too...that's just too creepy, and it sounds like that's what they'd attract is a lot of pedophiles (those testimonials aren't talking about 14 year-olds finding another 14-year old, they're talking about marrying a young teen off to some older man with enough money to pay the bride price and support a wife, etc.)

Rich pedophiles?
 
  • #29
“My mother thought I was getting ‘too frisky” and that I had to get married right away before I lost my purity to some high school boy. Marry Our Daughter found me a husband and my parents were able to keep their house and pay off my mother’s medical bills. I was so glad I could help them, and being married at my age (I'm 16 now) has a lot of advantages, like my own credit card!"

—Nancy A.

hahaha. pure like an expensive prostitute? it is the oldest profession, you know.

is this seriously for real? there's something about it that comes off as really not kosher ... I actually met a few girls who were in arranged marriages at my high-school. but they didn't do it through the internet, it was like between two families or something like that. which is still pretty weird, but whatever.
 
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Mallignamius said:
Rich pedophiles?

I don't know if in the u.s it's the same. but in Canada the law makes no sense on this.

a 40 year old man can have sex with a 14 year old girl, and that's perfectly legal. But if he possessed naked pictures of a 14 year old girl, he'd go to jail for being a pedophile... so I guess he's allowed to have sex with young girls, just not take pictures, because THAT would make him a pervert :confused:
 
  • #31
moe darklight said:
I don't know if in the u.s it's the same. but in Canada the law makes no sense on this.

a 40 year old man can have sex with a 14 year old girl, and that's perfectly legal. But if he possessed naked pictures of a 14 year old girl, he'd go to jail for being a pedophile... so I guess he's allowed to have sex with young girls, just not take pictures, because THAT would make him a pervert :confused:

That's never made any sense to me either. A 40 year-old man and an 18 year-old girl is bad enough. In the case of marriage to a minor, I can only hope that the parents are awake and sufficiently incorruptible enough to close the door.

And those laws really need to be ripped up. There is no excuse or rationalization in today's America for a man to propose to a child. None.
 
  • #32
siddharth said:
It happens in India and needn't necessarily be immoral either. In many cases, individuals are quite happy to let their family/parents "pick" a match.

Or they are like my friend who simply got divorced and moved to the U.S. :biggrin: From her perspective, many are not happy, but just make do because they have little choice of it.

That site sounds too fishy to be true. Though, after reading the testimonials, that country song comes to mind..."Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes-Benz?"
 
  • #33
I sincerely hope to God that this is a hoax...
 
  • #34
Moridin said:
I doubt that those particular people do not have a choice but to act happy?

Perhaps in some cases, but not in all. Arranged marriages are actually preferred by many people. For example, web based services like BharatMatrimony which help the family and individuals in picking "suitable" partners seem to be quite popular.

BobG said:
"Many cases" is kind of vague. A full half of arranged marriages have to turn out happy to match the success rate of picking your own husband or wife.

It's hard to find statistics on how successful a marriage is, partly due to the large population and partly because it's hard to measure.

My point is that, there's a different cultural system which exists, which places a strong emphasis on family interaction and status. It's quite common, especially in the rural areas, for a large extended family to live together. (Although this trend is changing in most cities). So, there seems to be a belief in such places that something as important as marriage is best left to the family members, who then try to pick a "compatible" partner for an individual, based on criteria which they believe are important. If both individuals agree to the match, then the arranged marriage takes place.

The family structure in India is usually patriarchal, and so women have to suffer most of the consequences when it goes wrong. Child marriages, forced marriages, the system of dowry, abuse and harassment by other family members, etc are some of the consequences when the system fails.

Moonbear said:
Or they are like my friend who simply got divorced and moved to the U.S. From her perspective, many are not happy, but just make do because they have little choice of it.

IMO, since the population is so large, there's always going to be many people who aren't happy as well as many people who are happy with their arranged marriage.

IMO, as long as people aren't forced and have the choice to enter and exit marriage, the arranged marriage system isn't necessarily immoral.
 
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Moonbear said:
that country song comes to mind..."Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes-Benz?"

Blasphemer! How dare you equate Joplin with cowboy ****?! That was hard-core rock. If memory serves, it was written by Kris Kristophersen; he definitely was not 'country'.
 
  • #36
Is this stuff even legal? What about human rights, international laws and all that jazz. It's sad that there is actually a market for this. No matter how advanced we as humans think we are, there are still those backward ones like this. Yes, they are backwards.
 
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Danger said:
Blasphemer! How dare you equate Joplin with cowboy ****?! That was hard-core rock. If memory serves, it was written by Kris Kristophersen; he definitely was not 'country'.
I think Kristofferson was more folk initially, but his compositions were picked up the country music artists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris_Kristofferson#Music_career

Kristofferson dated Joplin briefly. Mercedes Benz is attributed to Joplin and poet Michael McClure.

He had an interesting early life - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris_Kristofferson#Early_life
Kristofferson ultimately joined the U.S. Army and achieved the rank of captain. He became a helicopter pilot after receiving flight training at Fort Rucker in southeastern Alabama. Later, during the early 1960s, he was stationed in West Germany and returned to music and formed a band. In 1965, he resigned his commission to pursue songwriting. He had just been assigned to become an English Literature professor at West Point.
 
  • #39
Reminds me of a story a friend of mine told me after he returned from Iraq. They were driving trucks from Kuwait to Bagdad with a CO that happened to be an attractive female. Well at one stop, an Iraqi fellow spied their CO and asked my friend how much for the girl. Their unit was still laughing about it months later.
 
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Kris has been covered by some of country's best.

"Well, I woke up Sunday morning with no way to hold my head that didn't hurt..."

 
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Danger said:
Blasphemer! How dare you equate Joplin with cowboy ****?! That was hard-core rock. If memory serves, it was written by Kris Kristophersen; he definitely was not 'country'.

It was played on all the country stations.



You can't tell me that's not a country twang she's singing with there. Not a hint of "rock" to that song.
 
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Moonbear said:
It was played on all the country stations.



You can't tell me that's not a country twang she's singing with there. Not a hint of "rock" to that song.
No. That's how they sing in Texas. :biggrin: Janis was from Port Arthur.

Besides, the Rock stations in Houston, particularly K101, played Janis. she under the genres of Psychedelic Rock, Acid Rock, Blues-rock, Hard Rock. She's more blues-rock than the others.
 
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Astronuc said:
No. That's how they sing in Texas. :biggrin: Janis was from Port Arthur.

Besides, the Rock stations in Houston, particularly K101, played Janis. she under the genres of Psychedelic Rock, Acid Rock, Blues-rock, Hard Rock. She's more blues-rock than the others.

I know her other songs are all Rock, but until this thread, I didn't even realize she was the one singing Mercedes Benz. :redface: It was a totally different style from her other music.
 
  • #44
"prove that you love me and buy the next round"

Priceless!
 
  • #45
turbo-1 said:
"prove that you love me and buy the next round"

Priceless!

Maybe we need to cross-reference this to the "What's going on" thread. :biggrin:
 
  • #46
Maybe. Then again, maybe young people need to learn social skills on their own, so they're not stumbling around blind. In HS, I was short, lean, and slight of build (due to constant cross-country running and training for other sports). I learned then that if you liked a girl, you ought to treat her respectfully, try to have fun, and be a friend. Just be nice. In my freshman year of college, I was smitten by a very tall, leggy Scandinavian-looking blond, and noticed she sat alone at meals or perhaps with another girl or two from her dorm, so I mustered the courage to approach her table with my tray and ask if I could sit with her. She flashed a big smile and said "I've been saving this seat for you". We became inseparable, and you'd have to resort to Susan Anton/Dudley Moore to find an odder couple. I grew another 4" in the next year or so, but still she towered over me. We shared tastes in literature, music, philosophy, etc, and had a great time together.

It seems like a lot of the "what's going on" -type discussions are built around insecurities and fears. Young people have to realize (sooner or later) that romance/sex are secondary to friendships and that you cannot build a long-lasting relationship on the passions and infatuations that are so intriguing early-on. If you can't be a friend to your partner, you can't be a lover.
 
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turbo-1 said:
It seems like a lot of the "what's going on" -type discussions are built around insecurities and fears. Young people have to realize (sooner or later) that romance/sex are secondary to friendships and that you cannot build a long-lasting relationship on the passions and infatuations that are so intriguing early-on. If you can't be a friend to your partner, you can't be a lover.
Exactly! I always started with the idea of a friendship with any woman I met. If we found ourselves compatible in enough areas, the relationship might become more intimate. For me, the physical attraction was about the last thing, because I figured it happen eventually. I need the intellectual and emotional connection.

Start relationships as friends and just let it happen. :rolleyes:
 
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Astronuc said:
Exactly! I always started with the idea of a friendship with any woman I met. If we found ourselves compatible in enough areas, the relationship might become more intimate. For me, the physical attraction was about the last thing, because I figured it happen eventually. I need the intellectual and emotional connection.

Start relationships as friends and just let it happen. :rolleyes:
Due to the age disparity, I know we were not separated at birth, but I know a kindred spirit when I see one.

:biggrin:

BTW, for anybody keeping score, I'm the old guy - Astro's gray notwithstanding.:smile:
 
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Funny how we have a bunch of people saying "arranged marriages, sick!" "young girls having sex sick!," and then we have a guy that is comparing without bias, multiple cultures and how in other cultures these issues are not necessarily firmly wrong. I got close to what I wanted to say but didn't quite— something about moral relativism, perspective, and how with held personal morals you are always right, and everybody who does not agree with you is wrong.
 
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turbo-1 said:
Due to the age disparity, I know we were not separated at birth, but I know a kindred spirit when I see one.

:biggrin:

BTW, for anybody keeping score, I'm the old guy - Astro's gray notwithstanding.:smile:
I'm not far behind. :biggrin:

Funny how we have a bunch of people saying "arranged marriages, sick!" "young girls having sex sick!," and then we have a guy that is comparing without bias, multiple cultures and how in other cultures these issues are not necessarily firmly wrong. I got close to what I wanted to say but didn't quite— something about moral relativism, perspective, and how with held personal morals you are always right, and everybody who does not agree with you is wrong.
Arranged marriages are fine, IF they talk into consideration the rights, needs and wants of the individuals to be married, and if it is with the fully-informed (and not coerced) consent of those individuals.

In my case, there is NO way I would have let my parents arrange a marriage for me. While my father understands me to some degree, my mother certainly doesn't, and given her background and certain biases, she never could. Besides, I prefer to make my own decisions.

And reading some of the descriptions on that website - those young girls need to do a lot of growing up before they get married. And so do the men who are inclined to make proposals. :rolleyes:
 

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