Mass ratio of steam-ice mixture

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mass ratio of ice to steam when both are mixed and reach thermal equilibrium at 50 degrees Celsius. The initial attempt yielded a ratio of 6.8:1, while the correct answer is 4.5:1. Participants emphasize the importance of accounting for energy changes during phase transitions, specifically the melting of ice and condensation of steam. They suggest balancing the energy equations for both processes and checking arithmetic calculations for accuracy. Clarifying the steps taken in the calculations is recommended for better understanding and verification.
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Homework Statement


Ice cube at 0 degree is mixed with steam at 100 degree, both become water at 50 degree.
Find the ratio of mass of the ice : mass of steam

Homework Equations



Q=ml
Q=mcdT

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried this way :
let the ratio of ice to steam = a:b
a x 3.34x10^5=b x 2.26x10^6
and i found out it was 6.8:1, but the answer is 4.5:1
I have no idea.
Thx in advance!
 
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you are ignoring the temperature changes. the ice melts to water at 0C and steam condenses to water at 100C, but then they come to equilibrium at 50C.
 
So should i add the 4200x50xa and 4200x50xb?
But I still get it wrong.
 
basically you need to balance the energy; any energy that comes out one system goes into the other. so, on one side of the equation, you should record all the energy it takes to melt, and then raise the temperature of, the ice/water. on the other side, record the energy to condense, and then lower the temperature of, the steam/water. you seem to have all of the terms correct, and when i use your numbers i get 4.5:1 as well, so maybe check your arithmetic.

it would help if you put up all of your work: for instance 4200x50xa is the energy needed to raise the temperature of the water that was ice, but it is not clear how you used that to make your calculations.
 
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