Mass sliding down incline with spring

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a 3kg mass sliding down a 30-degree incline and compressing a spring after traveling a certain distance. The objective is to determine the initial separation between the mass and the spring before contact.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations and energy principles to analyze the motion of the mass and its interaction with the spring. Questions arise regarding the final velocity of the mass at the point of spring contact and the relevance of gravitational work.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints suggesting a focus on energy conservation rather than purely kinematic equations. There is an ongoing exploration of how to relate the work done by gravity to the work done by the spring, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the need to consider the distance traveled before and after contacting the spring, as well as the specific parameters given, such as the spring constant.

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Homework Statement



A 3kg mass starts at rest and slides a distance d down a smooth 30deg incline, where it contacts an unstressed spring. It slides an additional 0.2 m as it is brought momentarily to rest by compressing the spring (k=400N/m)

What is the initial separation d between the mass and the spring?


Homework Equations



F=ma
Vf = Vi + at
Us = 1/2kx^2
Ug = mgh
K = 1/2mv^2


The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not sure how to approach this problem yet. I know that you need to find the Vf, using mgsin30 as the acceleration and Vi=0.
 
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Hi fireearthair8,

They give you Vf in the problem statement (the final velocity of that part of the motion they are referring to). What is it? Now that you also know the final speed, does that help you know what approach to use?
 
Welcome to PF!

fireearthair8 said:
F=ma
Vf = Vi + at
Us = 1/2kx^2
Ug = mgh
K = 1/2mv^2

Hi fireearthair8! Welcome to PF! :smile:

Hint: forget F = ma and Vf = Vi + at.

You can do this just using energy (and d = h cos theta). :smile:
 
another hint:

find the work done by the spring, then compare that to the work done by gravity, which acts along the distance traveled without before touching the spring as well as the .2 m after it comes in contact with the spring.
 

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