Material selection calculations for DIY traction bars for my truck

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the material selection and mechanical design considerations for DIY traction bars for trucks. Participants explore the complexities of mechanical design, including the need for precise definitions of the problem and the importance of testing and safety in engineering applications.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the materials used in commercially available traction bars.
  • Another participant emphasizes that mechanical design requires careful consideration of various factors, including force direction, deflection, and the need for multiple formulas to address the problem adequately.
  • It is suggested that trial and error is common in aftermarket mechanical designs, but this approach carries risks due to potential costs associated with errors.
  • A participant mentions Newton's 2nd law of motion (F = ma) as a fundamental formula in practical engineering.
  • One participant advocates for steel as a suitable material, aligning with the existing load-bearing structures of the truck.
  • The thread is temporarily closed for moderation due to safety concerns regarding DIY structural members for vehicles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the complexity of mechanical design and the appropriate materials for traction bars. The discussion remains unresolved due to the thread's closure for moderation.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the need for a well-defined engineering problem to select appropriate formulas and materials. There are unresolved safety concerns regarding DIY modifications to vehicle structures.

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Good afternoon. I am wanting to build a set of traction bars for my truck.They go from the rear of the frame the the axle tube to help limit wheel hop due to the torque. I also want them Because they look cool LOL. What formula could I use so that I pick the correct material to make them out of? My truck weighs around 7k, thank you I attached a photo of what they are.
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What material is used to make the ones you can buy off the shelf?
 
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Unfortunately, mechanical design is a bit more complicated than someone giving you a simple formula to put numbers in. There are lots of formulas. The knowledge is in choosing and using them properly.

You can't choose the right formula with defining your problem. Like how much force, and in which direction, your structure will experience, how far can it deflect, etc. I don't think you're going to get a "formula" from us unless you can completely define your problem in real engineering terms. The better your definition is the easier it is to choose the formulas (note the plural form here).

I suspect nearly all after market mechanical designs for cars is done by trial and error. The problem with this is the cost of the errors. In any case, whatever method you use, testing with the expectation that things might break is really important.

OTOH, I'll toss one out. Probably the single most important and useful formula in practical engineering: F = ma; Newton's 2nd law of motion.

BTW, I vote for steel, which is what the rest of your truck's load bearing structures are made of.
 
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Thread closed temporarily for Moderation (while I try to figure out what the consequences of a traction bar breaking at freeway speed might be...)

Update -- thread will remain closed. A DIY discussion about how to build structural members for vehicles is inherently dangerous, so it's a conflict with the PF rules.
 
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