Materials: scientist vs engineering (research wise)

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The discussion revolves around the distinctions and overlaps between materials science and materials engineering, particularly in the context of research capabilities and career perspectives. Participants explore whether a materials engineer can engage in research and material design akin to a materials scientist, considering their educational backgrounds and work environments.

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  • Some participants suggest that the ability of a materials engineer to conduct research depends on their specific role and workplace environment.
  • One participant notes that engineering professors in materials likely engage in research, while engineers in certain industries, like bridge construction, may focus more on application than research.
  • Another participant reflects on their experience in the 1980s, stating that materials scientists were considered engineers at that time, questioning if this distinction still holds today.
  • There is a claim that currently, materials scientists and engineers are viewed as distinct professions, though this perspective is not universally agreed upon.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between materials science and engineering, with some asserting that they are distinct fields today, while others reference historical contexts where they were seen as more integrated. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the current status of these disciplines.

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Participants reference personal experiences and historical contexts, which may not reflect current academic structures or industry practices. The discussion includes assumptions about the roles and responsibilities of materials engineers and scientists that are not universally defined.

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So, i am trying to decide between materials science or engineering, i understand the difference, and i am preferring engineering due to the better career perspective, specially that i am from a country where research isn't their first priority, but i am still very interesting in research and material design, so my question is : can a material engineer research and design materials like a material scientist or he doesn't have the required knowledge?
 
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It depends on the engineer, and where he works.

For example: An engineering professor in materials would very probably be doing research into materials. An engineer for a company that builds bridges might not do very much research into materials, but might be reading a lot about new materials used for bridges. He might be doing a lot of testing of materials to determine if they will satisfy the requirements for a particular bridge design. Conceivably the bridge building company might be also developing new materials, but probably not. An engineer that worked for, say, a high-end steel producer, might be doing research into new alloys, surface treatments, etc. And probably all of them would be reading about new methods and materials that were related to their particular subjects.
 
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DEvens said:
It depends on the engineer, and where he works.

For example: An engineering professor in materials would very probably be doing research into materials. An engineer for a company that builds bridges might not do very much research into materials, but might be reading a lot about new materials used for bridges. He might be doing a lot of testing of materials to determine if they will satisfy the requirements for a particular bridge design. Conceivably the bridge building company might be also developing new materials, but probably not. An engineer that worked for, say, a high-end steel producer, might be doing research into new alloys, surface treatments, etc. And probably all of them would be reading about new methods and materials that were related to their particular subjects.
So a material engineer does have the enough knowledge to conduct such research if the job requires it?
 
Where I went to grad school in the 1980's, the material sciences department and program was in the school of engineering. Two of my suitemates were material scientists. No one at the school considered them physicists, mathematicians or social scientists. At least back in the 1980's, material scientists were engineers. Isn't it still that way?
 
mpresic said:
Where I went to grad school in the 1980's, the material sciences department and program was in the school of engineering. Two of my suitemates were material scientists. No one at the school considered them physicists, mathematicians or social scientists. At least back in the 1980's, material scientists were engineers. Isn't it still that way?
well, as far as i know, now material scientist and engineers are 2 distinct things.
 

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