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Summary:: functional analysis, operator theory, topology, measure theory, calculus
Authors: Math_QED (MQ), Infrared (IR), Wrobel (WR), fresh_42 (FR).

8. Let F be a meromorphic function (holomorphic up to isolated poles) in C with the following properties:
(1) F is holomorphic (complex differentiable) in the half plane H(0)={z∈C:ℜ(z)>0}.
(2) zF(z)=F(z+1).
(3) F is bounded in the strip {z∈C:1≤ℜ(z)≤2}.
Show that F(z)=F(1)Γ(z). (FR)
By (3) ##\exists M :| F(x+iy) |< M,\forall x\in \left[ 1,2\right]## and in particular ## | F(1) | <M##, also by (2) ##F(z)=\tfrac{1}{z} F(z+1)## and hence F(z) is bounded in the half-plane ##H(0)##. Also by (2) ##\lim_{z\to 0} F(z)=\lim_{z\to 0}\tfrac{1}{z}F(z+1)=F(1)\lim_{z\to 0}\tfrac{1}{z}=\infty## but ##\lim_{z\to 0}zF(z)=\lim_{z\to 0}F(z+1)=F(1)## so ##z=0## is a simple pole of ##F(z)## and continuing by (2) we see that ##a_k=-k,\forall k\in\mathbb{N}## are simple poles of ##F(z)##.
Define ##f(z):=\tfrac{1}{F(z+1)}## so that ##f(z)## is entire, then by the Weierstrass' Factor Theorem
$$f(z)=f(0)e^{\tfrac{f(0)}{f^\prime (0)}z}\prod_{k=1}^\infty \left\{\left(1-\tfrac{z}{a_k}\right)e^{\tfrac{z}{a_k}}\right\}\quad \text{(eqn 1)}$$

and we have from the definition of ##f(z)## that ##f(0)=\tfrac{1}{F(1)}## and that ##f^\prime (0) =-\tfrac{1}{\left[ F^\prime (1)\right] ^2}## substituting all known values into (eqn 1) we get

$$\tfrac{1}{zF(z)}=\tfrac{1}{F(z+1)}=\tfrac{1}{F(1)}e^{-\tfrac{F(1)}{\left[ F^\prime (1)\right] ^2}z}\prod_{k=1}^\infty \left\{\left(1+\tfrac{z}{k}\right)e^{-\tfrac{z}{k}}\right\}$$

multiply by ##z## on both sides

$$\tfrac{1}{F(z)}=\tfrac{z}{F(1)}e^{-\tfrac{F(1)}{\left[ F^\prime (1)\right] ^2}z}\prod_{k=1}^\infty \left\{\left(1+\tfrac{z}{k}\right)e^{-\tfrac{z}{k}}\right\}\quad (eqn 2)$$

set ##z=1## in the above

$$\tfrac{1}{F(1)}=\tfrac{1}{F(1)}e^{-\tfrac{F(1)}{\left[ F^\prime (1)\right] ^2}}\prod_{k=1}^\infty \left\{\left(1+\tfrac{1}{k}\right)e^{-\tfrac{1}{k}}\right\}$$

do some algebra to get

$$\tfrac{F(1)}{\left[ F^\prime (1)\right] ^2}=\lim_{N\to\infty}\sum_{k=1}^N\left[\log \left(1+\tfrac{1}{k}\right)-\tfrac{1}{k}\right]=-\gamma$$

by the definition of Euler's constant ##\gamma##, substitute this into (eqn 2) and compare to the Weierstrass product definition of the Gamma function and we have arrived at the required result.
Edit: See below for my next post for a more well explained proof.
 
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Oh brother, this simply connected business for \mathbb C^* is simply not necessary. Let's go again.
Suppose g:\mathbb C^* \to \mathbb C is continuous with e^{g(z)} \equiv z. Then g is holomorphic, because the exponential map is holomorphic and
<br /> \lim _{z\to z_0} \frac{g(z) - g(z_0)}{z-z_0} = \lim _{g(z)\to g(z_0)} \frac{g(z)-g(z_0)}{e^{g(z)} - e^{g(z_0)}}.<br />
By differentiating we get 1 = g&#039;(z) e^{g(z)} = zg&#039;(z), which implies g&#039;(z) = \frac{1}{z} on \mathbb C^*. But now by Cauchy's integral theorem, we get
<br /> 0 = \oint _{|z|=1} g&#039;(z) dz = \oint_{|z|=1} \frac{1}{z} dz = 2i\pi.<br />
Thus, such a g cannot exist.
Maybe I'm hunting a fly with a 50 cal rifle with armor-piercing rounds..
 
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benorin said:
By (3) ##\exists M :| F(x+iy) |< M,\forall x\in \left[ 1,2\right]## and in particular ## | F(1) | <M##, also by (2) ##F(z)=\tfrac{1}{z} F(z+1)## and hence F(z) is bounded in the half-plane ##H(0)##. Also by (2) ##\lim_{z\to 0} F(z)=\lim_{z\to 0}\tfrac{1}{z}F(z+1)=F(1)\lim_{z\to 0}\tfrac{1}{z}=\infty## but ##\lim_{z\to 0}zF(z)=\lim_{z\to 0}F(z+1)=F(1)## so ##z=0## is a simple pole of ##F(z)## and continuing by (2) we see that ##a_k=-k,\forall k\in\mathbb{N}## are simple poles of ##F(z)##.
Define ##f(z):=\tfrac{1}{F(z+1)}## so that ##f(z)## is entire, then by the Weierstrass' Factor Theorem
$$f(z)=f(0)e^{\tfrac{f(0)}{f^\prime (0)}z}\prod_{k=1}^\infty \left\{\left(1-\tfrac{z}{a_k}\right)e^{\tfrac{z}{a_k}}\right\}\quad \text{(eqn 1)}$$

and we have from the definition of ##f(z)## that ##f(0)=\tfrac{1}{F(1)}## and that ##f^\prime (0) =-\tfrac{1}{\left[ F^\prime (1)\right] ^2}## substituting all known values into (eqn 1) we get

$$\tfrac{1}{zF(z)}=\tfrac{1}{F(z+1)}=\tfrac{1}{F(1)}e^{-\tfrac{F(1)}{\left[ F^\prime (1)\right] ^2}z}\prod_{k=1}^\infty \left\{\left(1+\tfrac{z}{k}\right)e^{-\tfrac{z}{k}}\right\}$$

multiply by ##z## on both sides

$$\tfrac{1}{F(z)}=\tfrac{z}{F(1)}e^{-\tfrac{F(1)}{\left[ F^\prime (1)\right] ^2}z}\prod_{k=1}^\infty \left\{\left(1+\tfrac{z}{k}\right)e^{-\tfrac{z}{k}}\right\}\quad (eqn 2)$$

set ##z=1## in the above

$$\tfrac{1}{F(1)}=\tfrac{1}{F(1)}e^{-\tfrac{F(1)}{\left[ F^\prime (1)\right] ^2}}\prod_{k=1}^\infty \left\{\left(1+\tfrac{1}{k}\right)e^{-\tfrac{1}{k}}\right\}$$

do some algebra to get

$$\tfrac{F(1)}{\left[ F^\prime (1)\right] ^2}=\lim_{N\to\infty}\sum_{k=1}^N\left[\log \left(1+\tfrac{1}{k}\right)-\tfrac{1}{k}\right]=-\gamma$$

by the definition of Euler's constant ##\gamma##, substitute this into (eqn 2) and compare to the Weierstrass product definition of the Gamma function and we have arrived at the required result.
Ok, I see "some algebra" but could you at least elaborate the last lines? Especially as you nowhere mentioned which definition of the Gamma function you used. I have the impression that it takes me more effort to make your proof readable than it takes to give another one. Also Weierstrass needed a bit more explanation. I doubt that an average member can understand how you applied it to what.
 
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By (3) ##\exists M :| F(x+iy) |< M,\forall x\in \left[ 1,2\right]## and in particular ## | F(1) | <M##, also by (2) ##F(z)=\tfrac{1}{z} F(z+1)## and hence F(z) is bounded in the half-plane ##H(0)##. Also by (2) ##\lim_{z\to 0} F(z)=\lim_{z\to 0}\tfrac{1}{z}F(z+1)=F(1)\lim_{z\to 0}\tfrac{1}{z}=\infty## but ##\lim_{z\to 0}zF(z)=\lim_{z\to 0}F(z+1)=F(1)## so ##z=0## is a simple pole of ##F(z)## and continuing by (2) we see that ##a_k=-k,\forall k\in\mathbb{N}## are simple poles of ##F(z)##.
Define ##f(z):=\tfrac{1}{F(z+1)}## so that ##f(z)## is entire, then by the Weierstrass' Factor Theorem
$$f(z)=f(0)e^{\tfrac{f(0)}{f^\prime (0)}z}\prod_{k=1}^\infty \left\{\left(1-\tfrac{z}{a_k}\right)e^{\tfrac{z}{a_k}}\right\}\quad \text{(eqn 1)}$$

and we have from the definition of ##f(z)## that ##f(0)=\tfrac{1}{F(1)}## and that ##f^\prime (0) =-\tfrac{1}{\left[ F^\prime (1)\right] ^2}## substituting all known values into (eqn 1) we get

$$\tfrac{1}{zF(z)}=\tfrac{1}{F(z+1)}=\tfrac{1}{F(1)}e^{-\tfrac{F(1)}{\left[ F^\prime (1)\right] ^2}z}\prod_{k=1}^\infty \left\{\left(1+\tfrac{z}{k}\right)e^{-\tfrac{z}{k}}\right\}$$

multiply by ##z## on both sides

$$\tfrac{1}{F(z)}=\tfrac{z}{F(1)}e^{-\tfrac{F(1)}{\left[ F^\prime (1)\right] ^2}z}\prod_{k=1}^\infty \left\{\left(1+\tfrac{z}{k}\right)e^{-\tfrac{z}{k}}\right\}\quad (eqn 2)$$

set ##z=1## in the above

$$\tfrac{1}{F(1)}=\tfrac{1}{F(1)}e^{-\tfrac{F(1)}{\left[ F^\prime (1)\right] ^2}}\prod_{k=1}^\infty \left\{\left(1+\tfrac{1}{k}\right)e^{-\tfrac{1}{k}}\right\}$$

do some algebra to get

$$\tfrac{F(1)}{\left[ F^\prime (1)\right] ^2}=\lim_{N\to\infty}\sum_{k=1}^N\left[\log \left(1+\tfrac{1}{k}\right)-\tfrac{1}{k}\right]=-\gamma$$
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by the definition of Euler's constant ##\gamma##, substitute this into (eqn 2) and invert to get

$$\begin{gathered} \boxed{ F(z)=F(1)\cdot\tfrac{1}{z} e^{-\gamma z}\prod_{k=1}^\infty \left\{\left(1+\tfrac{z}{k}\right) ^{-1} e^{\tfrac{z}{k}}\right\} \\ =F(1)\cdot \Gamma (z) } \\ \end{gathered}$$

since the Weierstrass' product definition of the Gamma function is

$$\Gamma (z) =\tfrac{1}{z} e^{-\gamma z}\prod_{k=1}^\infty \left\{\left(1+\tfrac{z}{k}\right) ^{-1} e^{\tfrac{z}{k}}\right\} $$

we have arrived at the required result.
 
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding the problem, but if we're only worried about continuity (and not differentiability), can't we just do something simple? I just built a parallelogram and let ##f## and ##g## take paths along opposite sides:

Let ##f(\frac{3}{2})=\frac{3}{2}, g(\frac{3}{2})=\frac{3}{2}, f(\frac{1}{2})=\frac{1}{2}, g(\frac{1}{2})=\frac{1}{2}##. Notice that ##\frac{1}{2}x+\frac{3}{4}## and ##2x-\frac{3}{2}## both go through ##(\frac{3}{2},\frac{3}{2})##, and ##\frac{1}{2}x+\frac{1}{4}## and ##2x-\frac{1}{2}## both go through ##(\frac{1}{2},\frac{1}{2})##. We see that ##2x-\frac{1}{2}## intersects ##\frac{1}{2}x+\frac{3}{4}## at ##(\frac{5}{6},\frac{7}{6})##, and ##2x-\frac{3}{2}## intersects ##\frac{1}{2}x+\frac{1}{4}## at ##(\frac{7}{6},\frac{5}{6})##.

So now we just define:
$$f(x)=\begin{cases}
x &\text{if } 0\leq x < \frac{1}{2} \text{ or }\frac{1}{2} \leq x \leq 2\\
2x-\frac{1}{2} & \text{if } \frac{1}{2} \leq x < \frac{5}{6} \\
\frac{1}{2}x+\frac{3}{4}& \text{if } \frac{5}{6} \leq x < \frac{3}{2} \\
\end{cases}
$$
and
$$g(x)=\begin{cases}
x &\text{if } 0\leq x < \frac{1}{2} \text{ or }\frac{1}{2} \leq x \leq 2\\
\frac{1}{2}x+\frac{1}{4}& \text{if } \frac{1}{2} \leq x < \frac{7}{6} \\
2x-\frac{3}{2} & \text{if } \frac{7}{6} \leq x < \frac{3}{2} \\
\end{cases}
$$
 
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Let K\subseteq \mathbb C be non-empty compact. Suppose \{\gamma_n \in K \mid n\in\mathbb N\} \subseteq K is dense in K\ \ (\mathbb C is separable). Let D : e_n\mapsto \gamma_ne_n be a diagonal operator (in the infinite case H\cong \mathbb C^\omega, otherwise H\cong \mathbb C^N).

For any n\in\mathbb N we have \gamma_n\in\sigma (D), because D-\gamma_n\mathrm{id} is not injective. If we look at the kernel, we have
<br /> \sum \lambda _k(D-z_n\mathrm{id})(e_k) = \sum _{k\neq n} (\lambda _k\gamma_k - \gamma _n)e_k + (\lambda_n -1)\gamma _n e_n = 0.<br />
We can clearly see \lambda _k \equiv 0 is not forced.

Since \sigma (D) is closed, we also have K\subseteq \sigma (D). On the other hand, suppose \lambda\notin K. Then
F \left ( \sum \lambda _ke_k\right ) := \sum\frac{\lambda _k}{\gamma _k-\lambda}e_k
is the inverse of D-\lambda \mathrm{id}, thus \lambda\notin \sigma (D). Indeed, we can check for basis elements. We have
<br /> (F \circ (D-\lambda \mathrm{id}))(e_k) = F((\gamma _k-\lambda)e_k) = \frac{\gamma _k-\lambda}{\gamma _k-\lambda}e_k = e_k<br />
and
<br /> ((D-\lambda \mathrm{id}) \circ F)(e_k) = (D-\lambda \mathrm{id}) \left ( \frac{1}{\gamma _k-\lambda}e_k \right ) = e_k.<br />
Altogether \sigma (D) = K.
 
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nuuskur said:
Let K\subseteq \mathbb C be non-empty compact. Suppose \{\gamma_n \in K \mid n\in\mathbb N\} \subseteq K is dense in K\ \ (\mathbb C is separable). Let D : e_n\mapsto \gamma_ne_n be a diagonal operator (in the infinite case H\cong \mathbb C^\omega, otherwise H\cong \mathbb C^N).

For any n\in\mathbb N we have \gamma_n\in\sigma (D), because D-\gamma_n\mathrm{id} is not injective. If we look at the kernel, we have
<br /> \sum \lambda _k(D-z_n\mathrm{id})(e_k) = \sum _{k\neq n} (\lambda _k\gamma_k - \gamma _n)e_k + (\lambda_n -1)\gamma _n e_n = 0.<br />
We can clearly see \lambda _k \equiv 0 is not forced.

Since \sigma (D) is closed, we also have K\subseteq \sigma (D). On the other hand, suppose \lambda\notin K. Then
F \left ( \sum \lambda _ke_k\right ) := \frac{\lambda _k}{\gamma _k-\lambda}e_k
is the inverse of D-\lambda \mathrm{id}, thus \lambda\notin \sigma (D). Indeed, we can check for basis elements. We have
<br /> (F \circ (D-\lambda \mathrm{id}))(e_k) = F((\gamma _k-\lambda)e_k) = \frac{\gamma _k-\lambda}{\gamma _k-\lambda}e_k = e_k<br />
and
<br /> ((D-\lambda \mathrm{id}) \circ F)(e_k) = (D-\lambda \mathrm{id}) \left ( \frac{1}{\gamma _k-\lambda}e_k \right ) = e_k.<br />
Altogether \sigma (D) = K.

Seems to work! Working with diagonal operators was also what I had in mind. Here is a more sophisticated approach using the theory of ##C^*##-algebras:

Consider the ##C^*##-algebra ##C(K)##. Then the inclusion ##i: K \to \Bbb{C}## has spectrum ##K##. Next, choose a Hilbert space ##H## and an injective ##*##-homomorphism ##\varphi: C(K) \to B(H)## (GNS-construction). Then ##\varphi(i)## is a bounded operator on ##H## with spectrum ##K##.

I will look at the other solution attempt soon.
 
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@TeethWhitener If I take ##a=3/2## and ##b=1/2## in your example, then ##f(3/2)-f(1/2)=1## and ##g(3/2)-g(1/2)=1## are both integers.
 
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Suppose V/W is complete. Let x_n\in V,\ n\in\mathbb N, be a Cauchy sequence. Let \pi :V\to V/W be the projection, then \pi (x_n),\ n\in\mathbb N, is Cauchy in V/W. For some x\in V we have \pi (x_n) \xrightarrow[]{}\pi (x). By definition of infimum pick z_n\in V such that \|x_n-x-z_n\| \leq \|\pi (x_n-x)\| + \frac{1}{n},\ n\in\mathbb N. Then \|x_n-(x+z_n)\| \to 0. So we would have x_n \to x+\lim z_n. This is justified, because by triangle equality
<br /> \|z_n-z_m\| \leq \|x_n-x-z_n\| + \|x_n-x_m\| + \|x_m-x-z_m\| \xrightarrow[m,n\to\infty]{}0.<br />
 
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Infrared said:
@TeethWhitener If I take ##a=3/2## and ##b=1/2## in your example, then ##f(3/2)-f(1/2)=1## and ##g(3/2)-g(1/2)=1## are both integers.
I must have misread the question then. Are you looking for a proof that it's true for all ##f,g## given the problem constraints? I thought the question was just asking for an example.
 
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TeethWhitener said:
I must have misread the question then. Are you looking for a proof that it's true for all ##f,g## given the problem constraints? I thought the question was just asking for an example.
Given arbitrary continuous maps f,g on [0,2] we are to show such a\neq b exist. I'm thinking Intermediate value theorem might help. Not sure, right now.
 
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For every x\in\mathbb R we have \mathbb P\{X\leq x\}\in \{0,1\}. Let F be the distribution function for X. F is right continuous and we have \lim _{x\to\infty} F(x) = 1 and \lim _{x\to -\infty}F(x) = 0. This implies there exists c\in\mathbb R such that F = I_{[c,\infty]}. Now \mathbb P\{X&lt;c\} = F(c-) = 0, therefore X=c a.s.
We have \mathbb P\{X\leq x\} \in\{0,1\} for every x\in\mathbb R. One readily verifies X is independent of itself. Put c:= \inf \{x\in\mathbb R \mid X\leq x\}. It is finite, because \lim _{x\to \infty} \mathbb P\{X\leq x\} = 1, therefore for sufficiently large x_0 we have \mathbb P\{X\leq x_0\}=1. By Kolmogorov's 0-1 law \mathbb P\{X=c\}=1.
Since X is almost surely constant, the probability it takes any other value is zero, hence its variance is zero. Therefore \mathbb E(X-\mathbb E(X))^2 = 0 implies X=\mathbb E(X) a.s. The first moment exists, because variance is finite.
nuuskur said:
.. by triangle equality
Triangle equality 😂 I meant triangle inequality.
 
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Summary:: functional analysis, operator theory, topology, measure theory, calculus
Authors: Math_QED (MQ), Infrared (IR), Wrobel (WR), fresh_42 (FR).

9. Show that there exists no continuous function g:C∖{0}→C such that eg(z)=z for all z∈C∖{0} (i.e. there is no continuous logarithm on C∖{0}). (MQ)
(Corrected version, credits go to @PeroK for pointing out and solving the original problem.)

I beg to differ: A Course of Modern Analysis, 3rd ed. Whittaker & Watson pg 589 (heading A6) says ##\log z = \Log |z| + i \arg z## is a continuous multi-valued function of ##z## since ##|z|## is a continuous function of ##z##.
 
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benorin said:
I beg to differ: A Course of Modern Analysis, 3rd ed. Whittaker & Watson pg 589 (heading A6) says ##\log z = \Log |z| + i \arg z## is a continuous multi-valued function of ##z## since ##|z|## is a continuous function of ##z##.
I suspect you can make log continuous by taking the domain to be a set of complex planes disconnected at the branch cuts.

These are, of course, Riemann surfaces.

In any case it's ##\arg z## that is discontinuous.
 
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nuuskur said:
Oh brother, this simply connected business for \mathbb C^* is simply not necessary. Let's go again.
Suppose g:\mathbb C^* \to \mathbb C is continuous with e^{g(z)} \equiv z. Then g is holomorphic, because the exponential map is holomorphic and
<br /> \lim _{z\to z_0} \frac{g(z) - g(z_0)}{z-z_0} = \lim _{g(z)\to g(z_0)} \frac{g(z)-g(z_0)}{e^{g(z)} - e^{g(z_0)}}.<br />
By differentiating we get 1 = g&#039;(z) e^{g(z)} = zg&#039;(z), which implies g&#039;(z) = \frac{1}{z} on \mathbb C^*. But now by Cauchy's integral theorem, we get
<br /> 0 = \oint _{|z|=1} g&#039;(z) dz = \oint_{|z|=1} \frac{1}{z} dz = 2i\pi.<br />
Thus, such a g cannot exist.
Maybe I'm hunting a fly with a 50 cal rifle with armor-piercing rounds..
We can kill a fly with a fly swatter. Don't need the rifle.
Suppose g:\mathbb C^* \to\mathbb C is continuous and satisfies the identity e^{g(z)} = z. Since g is right inverse to \exp, it is injective, thus g(\mathbb C^*) \cong \mathbb C^*. But now \exp is forced to be injective on \mathbb C^*. Indeed, for any u,v\neq 0 we have
e^u = e^v \Leftrightarrow e^{g(z)} = e^{g(w)} \Leftrightarrow z=w \Rightarrow u=v.
But that's impossible.
 
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@nuuskur Where did you use continuity (this is definitely a necessary condition)? Anyway, you seem to be claiming that ##g## is surjective in saying ##g(\mathbb{C}^*)=\mathbb{C}^*##. How do you know this? If you only mean that ##g## gives a bijection from ##\mathbb{C}^*## to its image, then how are you writing ##u=g(z), v=g(w)##?
 
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  • #47
PeroK said:
If we try to make ##\beta## continuous, then without loss of generality we can take ##\beta(0) = 0##, hence ##\beta = \theta## and we get a discontinuity at ##\theta = 0##. More generally, for any ##\phi## we could could take ##\beta(\phi) = \phi + 2n\pi## and get the discontinuous branch cut at ##\theta = \phi##.

Hmm, I need a little more details here. Explain why the discontinuities arise. I find your argument a bit too handwavy.
 
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Infrared said:
@nuuskur Where did you use continuity (this is definitely a necessary condition)? Anyway, you seem to be claiming that ##g## is surjective in saying ##g(\mathbb{C}^*)=\mathbb{C}^*##. How do you know this?
Continuity is implicit. I'm working in the category with continuous maps. No, g is injective, therefore it's an isomorphism onto its image.
 
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nuuskur said:
Continuity is implicit.
Which part of your argument fails if ##g## is not required to be continuous?

nuuskur said:
No, g is injective, therefore it's an isomorphism onto its image.

Please explain this line.

nuuskur said:
e^u = e^v \Leftrightarrow e^{g(z)} = e^{g(w)} \Leftrightarrow z=w \Rightarrow u=v.
What are ##z## and ##w## in relation to ##u## and ##v##? It looks to me like you're assuming that ##g## is surjective here (by saying that you can write ##u=g(z), v=g(w)##)
 
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nuuskur said:
Continuity is implicit. I'm working in the category with continuous maps. No, g is injective, therefore it's an isomorphism onto its image.

You really need that ##g(\Bbb{C}^*) = \Bbb{C}^*## for your argument to work. Also, when using the symbol ##\cong##, explain what you mean with the symbol. I assume that you mean isomorphism in the category of continuous maps, but how are you even sure the inverse on the image is continuous as well?
 
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nuuskur said:
This implies there exists c\in\mathbb R such that F = I_{[c,\infty]}.

Explain this line.
 
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Math_QED said:
Hmm, I need a little more details here. Explain why the discontinuities arise. I find your argument a bit too handwavy.
Effectively it boils down to the discontinuity of ##\arg z##. I thought that was trivial and well established!
 
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nuuskur said:
We can kill a fly with a fly swatter. Don't need the rifle.
Suppose g:\mathbb C^* \to\mathbb C is continuous and satisfies the identity e^{g(z)} = z. Since g is right inverse to \exp, it is injective, thus g(\mathbb C^*) \cong \mathbb C^*. But now \exp is forced to be injective on \mathbb C^*. Indeed, for any u,v\neq 0 we have
e^u = e^v \Leftrightarrow e^{g(z)} = e^{g(w)} \Leftrightarrow z=w \Rightarrow u=v.
But that's impossible.
Ok, here are the details. Firstly, since g is injective, it means g(\mathbb C^*) \cong \mathbb C^* as sets. That means any u\neq 0 can be written uniquely as u=g(z). But we also have a homemorphism with the obvious choice ( this is forced, really) f(g(z)) := z,\ z\neq 0. For continuity of f:g(\mathbb C^*) \to \mathbb C^* suppose g(z_n) \to g(z), then continuity of exponential map implies e^{g(z_n)} \to e^{g(z)} which by assumption is the same as z_n\to z so f is continuous.

What fails if g is not continuous: it wouldn't be a morphism in the category with continuous maps, so the above won't apply.
 
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Explain this line.
By definition of limit. As x\to -\infty we must have A&gt;0 such that x\leq -A implies F(x) = \mathbb P\{X\leq x\}=0. Since such A are bounded from below, take the infimum i.e c := \inf \{x\in\mathbb R \mid X\leq x\}. Now, whatever happens for x&gt;c must occur with probability 1 (otherwise c wouldn't be the infimum). There can be no in-betweens so F = I_{[c,\infty]} is forced due to right continuity of F i.e F(c+) = 1.
 
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Suffices to show C(f) = \{x\in X \mid f\text{ is continuous at }x\} is a Borel set, it can also be empty. Then C(f)^c = D(f) is a Borel set. Let's chase epsilons from the definition of continuity. f is continuous at x\in X if and only if
<br /> \forall n\in\mathbb N,\ \exists \delta &gt;0,\ \forall z\in X,\quad z\in B(x,\delta) \Rightarrow f(z) \in B\left (f(x), n^{-1}\right ).<br />
In other words we have \{x\}= \bigcap _{n\in\mathbb N} \{U\subseteq X \mid x\in U,\ U\text{ is open and }f(U) \subseteq B(f(x), n^{-1}) \}. Do this for all points of continuity, then we have the G_\delta set
<br /> \bigcap _{n\in\mathbb N} \bigcup \left\{ U\subseteq X \mid U\text{ is open, }\ \sup_{u,v\in U} d_Y(f(u),f(v)) \leq n^{-1} \right \} = C(f).<br />
The equality should be clear.
 
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  • #56
nuuskur said:
That means any u\neq 0 can be written uniquely as u=g(z).

Why?
 
  • #57
Infrared said:
Why?
Oops, that's bad expression by me. I really had in mind that u is identified uniquely with g(z). But now e^u = e^v \Rightarrow e^{g(z)} = e^{g(w)} might break. Thanks for noticing. The homemorphism part still works, but usable if g is an inclusion as @Math_QED said.

I'll stick to my rifle at #32 for now. Yet I'm not convinced continuity is a required assumption. I get a feeling e^{g(z)} =z forces g to be continuous and in this case, holomorphic.
 
  • #58
nuuskur said:
Yet I'm not convinced continuity is a required assumption. I get a feeling e^{g(z)} =z forces g to be continuous and in this case, holomorphic

It doesn't. ##g(z)=\ln|z|+\arg(z)## is a counterexample
 
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  • #59
Infrared said:
It doesn't. ##g(z)=\ln|z|+\arg(z)## is a counterexample
Of course *smacks forehead*. I had a thought maybe |z|\leq |e^z|, but that's not true in \mathbb C.
 
  • #60
Math_QED said:
Hmm, I need a little more details here. Explain why the discontinuities arise. I find your argument a bit too handwavy.
We have a function ##\beta (\theta)## for ##0 \le \theta < 2\pi## with ##\cos \beta (\theta) = \cos \theta## and ##\sin \beta (\theta) = \sin \theta##. We know that ##\beta(0) = 2\pi n## for some ##n##. As adding a constant does not effect the continuity of a function we can, wlog, take ##\beta(0) = 0##.

The technical point outstanding is that if ##\beta## is continuous, then ##\beta(\theta) = \theta##.

In general, we have ##\beta(\theta) = \theta + 2\pi n(\theta)## with ##n(0) = 0##, as above.

The only continuous functions of the form ##2\pi n(\theta)## are constant functions. I'll spare everyone an epsilon-delta proof of that. Therefore, we must have ##g(z) = i\theta = i\arg z## for ## 0 \le \theta < 2\pi##.

The second technical point is that ##\arg(z)## is discontinuous on the unit circle. I'll quote that as a known result.

In any case, that proves that ##g## cannot be continuous.
 
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