Math Help: Solving Equations with Logarithms and Square Roots

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The discussion focuses on solving two mathematical problems involving logarithms and square roots. The first problem requires expressing n in terms of X from the equation X = (10^n - 1) / 10^n, leading to the conclusion that n = -log(1 - X). The second problem involves proving the equality 1 / sqrt(4 - 2sqrt(3)) = (sqrt(3) + 1) / 2, with participants suggesting to simplify and expand expressions to demonstrate the equivalence. The final resolution highlights the importance of recognizing patterns in equations and using algebraic identities to simplify complex expressions. The collaborative effort ultimately leads to a successful understanding of both problems.
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1) I need to express n in terms of X in this equation:

X = \frac {10^n-1} {10^n}

I got to this so far but I don't know if I'm on the right path or not and I don't know how to continue:

\log {X} + n = \log {(10^n-1)}

2) I have to prove this:

\frac {1} {\sqrt{4-2\sqrt {3}}} = \frac {\sqrt{3}+1} {2}

Don't know how to continue from here:

\frac {\sqrt{2} \sqrt {2+\sqrt {3}}} {2}
 
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For number one:
X = \frac {10^n-1} {10^n}
X = 1 - \frac {1} {10^n}
Which gives you:
1 - X = \frac {1} {10^n}

Can you go from here?
 
For (2), note that:

1+\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}=(a+b)^2

a and b has to be the expression you're trying to show right?
 
2 = (\sqrt{3}+1) {\sqrt{4-2\sqrt {3}}}
4 = (\sqrt{3}+1)^2 (4-2\sqrt {3})

Now expand the square, then expand everything, then simplify to show left = right.
 
This is the answer for the first one, isn't it?

n = -\log {(1-X)}

It was easy, but I don't know why I couldn't do it. Thanks a lot.

I'm having serious trouble with the second one

EnumaElish said:
2 = (\sqrt{3}+1) {\sqrt{4-2\sqrt {3}}}
4 = (\sqrt{3}+1)^2 (4-2\sqrt {3})

Now expand the square, then expand everything, then simplify to show left = right.

I suppose you got those equalities by rearranging the terms in the first equation. The thing is that the problem just says simplify:

\frac {1} {\sqrt{4-2\sqrt {3}}}

I'm sorry, it was my mistake. The second part is the answer given by the teacher.
 
Also, do you mean I have to replace those equations in

\sqrt{4+2\sqrt {3}

to get

\sqrt {(\sqrt{3}+1)^2 (4-2\sqrt {3}) + [(\sqrt{3}+1) {\sqrt{4-2\sqrt {3}}}] \sqrt {3}}
 
Okay. Here is what you should do :
You know that:
(\alpha + \beta) ^ 2 = \alpha ^ 2 + 2\alpha \beta + \beta ^ 2
You will try to arrange \aqrt{4 - 2 \sqrt{3}} into something like: (\alpha + \beta) ^ 2 Then you can easily take the square root of it.
So you have \alpha ^ 2 + \beta ^ 2 = 4 \mbox{, and } \alpha \beta = -\sqrt{3}
Can you solve for \alpha, and \beta?
Then can you solve : \sqrt{(\alpha + \beta) ^ 2}? Just remember that:
\sqrt{A ^ 2} = |A|
Viet Dao,
 
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I finally did it. Thanks a lot Viet Dao. I would never have guessed I had to do that.
 
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