Mathematical Axioms of General Relativity

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What are the equations from which all of GR can be derived? Obviously one of the equations is Einstein's Field Equation: G^{\alpha\beta}=8\pi T^{\alpha\beta}. I would also guess that you would need the Euler-Lagrange Equations: -\frac{d}{d\sigma}(\frac{\partial L}{\partial (dx^{\alpha}/d\sigma)}) + \frac{\partial L}{\partial x^{\alpha}} = 0. Are those all the necessary equations, ie, if given a set initial conditions could you correctly calculate the entire history of the system using only these two equations and a lot of math (assuming of course that gravity is the only force)?
 
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The Einstein-Hilbert action, the matter action, and the assumption that matter is minimally coupled to the metric.
 
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atyy said:
The Einstein-Hilbert action, the matter action, and the assumption that matter is minimally coupled to the metric.

So the mathematical statement of the Einstein-Hilbert action is : I= \int_{V} dV (-g)^{1/2}R (which as I understand is equivalent to the Einstein Field Equation), but what about the mathematical statements of the other two principles?
 
The matter action is the action of matter in special relativity, but with the Minkowski metric replaced by the metric in the Einstein-Hilbert action. Minimal coupling means that the matter action does not contain derivatives of the metric.

Take a look at Eq 2.33 in http://www.cpt.univ-mrs.fr/~rovelli/book.pdf.
 
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A group of Hungarian mathematicians has done quite a lot of work recently on axiomatizing relativity (special and general) in first order logic (see e.g. http://www.renyi.hu/~turms/phd.pdf). I'm not overly familiar with their work but it may be of interest, if you like things formal.
 
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