Mathematical methods for physicists by Arfken and Weber

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the book "Mathematical Methods for Physicists" by Arfken and Weber, focusing on recommendations for supplementary online lecture series and general advice for studying rigorous mathematical physics. Participants express their opinions on the book's effectiveness and suggest alternative resources.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express dissatisfaction with Arfken and Weber, citing "sloppy mathematics" and "little physical insight," suggesting it may not be the best resource for learning mathematical methods.
  • Others recommend Hassani's book on mathematical physics as a more favorable alternative, indicating a preference among some physicists.
  • One participant mentions studying classical mechanics through Leonard Susskind's lectures and expresses a desire to strengthen their mathematical foundation before tackling more advanced topics.
  • Another participant advises against using Goldstein for understanding non-holonomic constraints, suggesting Landau & Lifshitz as a better reference.
  • Several participants inquire about specific topics of interest in mathematical methods, indicating a desire for tailored recommendations.
  • Some participants provide links to online resources and lecture series, although they express uncertainty about their quality.
  • One participant suggests Mary Boas' textbook as a foundational resource, contrasting it with Arfken and Weber, which they describe as less user-friendly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the value of Arfken and Weber, with multiple participants expressing negative views while others suggest alternative texts. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best resources for learning mathematical methods in physics.

Contextual Notes

Participants have varying levels of familiarity with mathematical topics, and there are references to specific areas of study that may require additional resources or clarification. The discussion highlights differing opinions on the effectiveness of various textbooks and lecture series.

PrathameshR
Messages
35
Reaction score
3
I'm searching for a good online lecture series to go with the book Mathematical methods for physicists by arfken and Weber . Tell me If you know about such series . Other general tips on starting rigourous mathematical physics are also welcome.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
PrathameshR said:
the book Mathematical methods for physicists by arfken and Weber
PrathameshR said:
Other general tips on starting rigourous mathematical physics are also welcome.
I would not recommend Arfken and Weber. I was obliged to use it as an undergraduate physics student and it made me sad: sloppy mathematics, little physical insight, the worst of two worlds.

A lot of physicists here seem to like Hassani's book on mathematical physics, see this thread, where A&W is also mentioned, but not favorably.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: vanhees71
Krylov said:
I would not recommend Arfken and Weber. I was obliged to use it as an undergraduate physics student and it made me sad: sloppy mathematics, little physical insight, the worst of two worlds.

A lot of physicists here seem to like Hassani's book on mathematical physics, see this thread, where A&W is also mentioned, but not favorably.
Thanks for the help
 
Krylov said:
I would not recommend Arfken and Weber. I was obliged to use it as an undergraduate physics student and it made me sad: sloppy mathematics, little physical insight, the worst of two worlds.

A lot of physicists here seem to like Hassani's book on mathematical physics, see this thread, where A&W is also mentioned, but not favorably.
Do you know of any lecture series?
 
PrathameshR said:
Do you know of any lecture series?
No, sorry, I am more a book person, but I am sure others will know. Did you look around already? Also, is there a specific topic that you are interested in (such as mathematics for classical mechanics, or QM, or...) or is your purpose to learn general mathematical methodology for physicists?
 
Krylov said:
No, sorry, I am more a book person, but I am sure others will know. Did you look around already? Also, is there a specific topic that you are interested in (such as mathematics for classical mechanics, or QM, or...) or is your purpose to learn general mathematical methodology for physicists?
I studied classical mechanics through lectures by Leonard susskind but when I started to study using Goldstein I got stuck at use of Lagrange's multipliers in non holonomic constraints so I thought it might be better to first get equipped with mathematical methods. So I started studying mathematical methods for physics. I'm familiar with linear algebra, single variable/multivariable/vector calculus, differential equations, integral transforms etc. After completing the mathematical methods I wish to go for a more rigourous study of classical mechanics , then quantum and statistical mechanics and electrodynamics etc
 
Don't use Goldstein for this very topic! He discusses not the correct treatment of non-holonomic constraints. Have a look at vol. I of Landau&Lifshitz.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: atyy
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Demystifier
Re: Lectures:

Prof. Balakrishnan, covers a number of topics. I'm not sure how he picked which.


Carl Bender, who wrote a great book about asymptotics and perturbation theory. The focus of these lectures is more on those methods.
 
  • #10
You want Mathematical Methods in the Physics Sciences by Mary Boas.

Boas' textbook should be the first you should look at. If you master everything in Boas, you have an excellent foundation, and you can search more specific works if you want to go more advance into a specific topic.

Boas' textbook does not require a study guide or another course. It is well-written and well-structured enough you can just dive in.

In contrast, Arkfen's book is a nightmare; it's basically an encyclopedia. Most useless book I have on my shelf.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: vanhees71
  • #11
  • #12
PrathameshR said:
I studied classical mechanics through lectures by Leonard susskind but when I started to study using Goldstein I got stuck at use of Lagrange's multipliers in non holonomic constraints so I thought it might be better to first get equipped with mathematical methods. So I started studying mathematical methods for physics. I'm familiar with linear algebra, single variable/multivariable/vector calculus, differential equations, integral transforms etc. After completing the mathematical methods I wish to go for a more rigourous study of classical mechanics , then quantum and statistical mechanics and electrodynamics etc

But Lagrange's multiplier is a topic covered in calculus texts, it is usually covered in the multivariable part and you said you covered multivariable calculus already. I think just study that part in multivariable calculus and you'll have no problem.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 34 ·
2
Replies
34
Views
10K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
5K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
1K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
4K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
13K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
1K