Matrix Exponent Problem: Find smallest n such that Sn = I

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The discussion centers on determining the smallest positive integer n such that the matrix S, representing a rotation by an angle of 3π/17, satisfies Sn = I, where I is the identity matrix. Participants suggest exploring the powers of the matrix S, specifically S² and S³, to understand its behavior. The transformation represented by S is crucial, as it indicates how S affects vectors rather than just focusing on the matrix elements. Standard trigonometric identities are recommended to simplify calculations and derive the solution. Ultimately, the goal is to find the smallest n without extensive multiplication of S.
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Homework Statement


Consider the matrix

cos(3*pi/17) -sin(3*pi/17)
S = sin(3*pi/17) cos(3*pi/17)

Does there exist a positive integer n such that Sn = I where I is the 2x2 identity? If so, what is the smallest such integer? Explain.

Excuse the poor matrix formatting. I do not know how to use the latex formatting to put it into pretty print.

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Not sure...


The Attempt at a Solution



Where should I start? I really have no idea.
 
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Hi DmytriE! :smile:

Hint: suppose S is

Code:
cosθ -sinθ
sinθ cosθ

What is S2 ? S3 ? etc? :wink:
 
Let's suppose that n = 10. I don't think I have to multiply S by S 10 times to get the answer. Unfortunately the answer is not 10. How would S2, S3 help me figure it out?

S2:
UL:cos2(θ) - sin2(θ)
UR: -2sin(θ)cos(θ)
LL: 2sin(θ)cos(θ)
LR: -sin2(θ)+cos2(θ)

Each abbreviation represent the place in the matrix that they would appear. UL - Upper left, etc.

S3:
Alot of sines and cosines.
 
That's not what tiny-tim is suggesting. Your matrix represents a certain kind of transformation.

Instead of thinking about what S, S2, S3, etc. are (in terms of their matrix representations), think about what they do to a vector they multiply.
 
Thanks for the help! This forum really is the best!
 
Hi DmytriE! :smile:

(just got up :zzz:)
DmytriE said:
S2:
UL:cos2(θ) - sin2(θ)
UR: -2sin(θ)cos(θ)
LL: 2sin(θ)cos(θ)
LR: -sin2(θ)+cos2(θ)

have you got it now?

if not, use standard trigonometric identities :wink:
 
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