Max Amplitude Gravitational Waves: 2?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the maximum amplitude of gravitational waves, specifically questioning whether this value is equal to two. Participants explore the implications of this amplitude in the context of gravitational wave theory and its representation in general relativity.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses curiosity about the maximum amplitude of gravitational waves, recalling a value of two but unable to find a credible reference.
  • Another participant questions the source of this information, asking where the value of two was read.
  • A participant suggests that the value of two may have been encountered in a Wikipedia article but acknowledges the lack of credibility of such sources.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the recollection of the value, stating they have never heard of this before.
  • Another participant agrees with the skepticism and elaborates that gravitational waves are typically treated using a linearized approximation of general relativity, implying that the amplitude should be small, though the definition of "small" can vary.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the maximum amplitude of gravitational waves, with multiple competing views and uncertainty regarding the validity of the recalled value of two.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the ambiguity surrounding the definition of "small" in the context of gravitational wave amplitudes and the limitations of the linearized approximation in general relativity.

James Essig
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I am curious as to what the maximum amplitude of gravitational waves is. I have read that the maximum amplitude as such is equal to two but I cannot seem to find again a reference that states this clearly.
 
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James Essig said:
I have read that the maximum amplitude as such is equal to two

Where have you read that?
 
I am not sure. My memory seems to indicate that I read of the value of two in a Wikipedia article but upon searching related Wikipedia topics, I cannot find any verifying statements. Wikipedia is far from the most credible sources, so perhaps a more credible source is preferred. By a factor of two, I mean the extent of the space of maximum space contraction is 50 % of the extent of the space of maximum space expansion as a result of a passing gravitational wave.
 
I have never heard this before. I suspect that your recollection is mistaken.
 
James Essig said:
By a factor of two, I mean the extent of the space of maximum space contraction is 50 % of the extent of the space of maximum space expansion as a result of a passing gravitational wave.

I have never heard this either so I agree with @Dale that your recollection is most likely mistaken.

As far as a general answer to your question, gravitational waves are standardly treated using the linearized approximation of GR, which assumes that any perturbations of the metric are small; since the size of the perturbation of the metric is the amplitude of the gravitational wave, that would mean that the amplitude of gravitational waves should be small. Of course "small" does not have a precise definition; it depends on the problem and on how accurate you want your predictions to be. But generally speaking, if the perturbation is not small, the linearized approximation is no longer valid, which means whatever you're studying is no longer usefully viewed as a "gravitational wave"; it's a more general curved spacetime.
 

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