Max Angle for Block to Roll Without Slipping: 29.24°

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A block begins to slide on an inclined plane at an angle of 15.64°, indicating a friction coefficient (μ) of 0.28. For a solid cylinder made of the same material, the maximum angle for rolling without slipping is calculated using the relationship μ = tan(θ)/2, leading to θ = 29.24°. The discussion includes a correction regarding a dropped factor of 2 in the equations, which was crucial for reaching the correct solution. Participants also clarified how to use the arctangent function on calculators to find angles. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurate calculations in physics problems.
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1. Homework Statement
A block of a certain material begins to slide on an inclined plane when the plane is inclined to an angle of 15.64°. If a solid cyclinder is fashioned from the same material, what will be the maximum angle at which it will roll without slipping on the plan

2. Homework Equations

tan θ = μ
tan 15.64 = 0.28 = μ
Now let's assume a solid cylinder with mass M and radius R on an inclination θ
Translatory motion, (a is acceleration of CM)
Mg sinθ - μMgcosθ = Ma
g sinθ - μgcosθ = a ...(1)

Rotational motion,
μMgcosθ(R) = Iα (α is angular acceleration)
μMgcosθ (R) = MR²/2(α)
μ g cosθ = R/2 (α) ...(2)

for pure rolling,
αR = a

μ g cosθ = a / 2
Replace a with the expression in (1)
μ g cosθ = g sinθ - μgcosθ
μ cosθ = sinθ - μ cosθ
2(μ cosθ) = sinθ
μ = tanθ / 2

θ = arc tan (2μ) = arc tan(0.56) = 29.24 deg

3. The Attempt at a Solution
I got incorrect answer for that problem?? I don't know why I got it wrong??
 
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Hi Anya91! :smile:
Anya91 said:
μ g cosθ = a / 2
Replace a with the expression in (1)
μ g cosθ = g sinθ - μgcosθ

You dropped the 2. :redface:

(btw, you could also have done τ = Iα about the centre of rotation :wink:)
 
thank you so much :) I got correct answer now =)
 
i am so confused.. how can you find the "arc" that you are plugging into "arc tan(0.56) = 29.24 deg" i tried this and i am LOST! helppp!
 
hi slk011! :smile:
slk011 said:
.. how can you find the "arc" that you are plugging into "arc tan(0.56) = 29.24 deg"

arctan is the same as tan-1

use the tan-1 button on your calculator, and it gives you the angle whose tan is 0.56 :wink:

(you may need to click "2nd" to turn the tan button into tan-1)
 
Thank you for the help! ... i am using eq (3 tanθ)(tan-1 (3tanθ) and its not working :( what am i doing wrong?
 
nevermind! got it! it was (3 tanθ)+(tan-1 (3tanθ)!
 
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