Max Speed of Car: 80m Track & .40 Coeff of Friction

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To determine the maximum speed of a car on an 80m circular track with a coefficient of friction of 0.40, the centripetal force equation must be applied. The force of friction provides the necessary centripetal force, which is calculated using the formula F_net = ma, where a is the centripetal acceleration (a = V^2/r). The normal force is equal to the weight of the car (N = mg), allowing the equation to be set up as (coefficient of friction)(N) = M(V^2/R). By substituting the normal force into the equation, the relationship between mass and acceleration can be analyzed, leading to the conclusion that the maximum speed can be derived symbolically without specific mass values. Understanding these relationships is crucial for solving the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement


"what is the maximum speed at which a car can safely travel if the radius of the track is 80.0 m and the coefficient of friction is .40"
friction is providing the force and the track is flat and circular.


Homework Equations


the equations that we've been using in class are:
Fnet=ma
a= V^2/r
w=mg
force of friction= (coefficient of friction)(normal force)



The Attempt at a Solution


I set up the Newton's Second Law for centripetal force (Fnet=ma) and know that the Fnet would be the coefficient times the normal force. I set up the acceleration equation (a=V^2/r). But I'm confused about finding the normal force without a mass. I know that velocity is distance divided by time and that the distance would be 2∏r, but I don't know how you would find it that way without time. What am I missing?
 
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just set mass to m for now and go through with and see what happens.
 
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Let normal force be N and mass be M .How are they related ?
 
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okay so I did (.40)(m)(9.8)=m(V^2/80)
which comes to be 3.92m=m(V^2/80)

and then I tried substituting V^2 with 160pi/time because of 2(pi)(r)
how do I work with the two variables?
 
normal force is the mass times gravity?
 
RoyG said:
normal force is the mass times gravity?

Symbolically ,N=Mg

Now what is the equation of centripetal force ? Please do not plug in the values .Work in terms of symbols .
 
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You have an m on each side... sooo...
 
F stands for centripetal force, M stands for mass, and a stands for centripetal acceleration. This is the formula we used in class:
F=ma
Is this the equation of centripetal force or just Newton's 2nd Law for Circular Motion?
 
RoyG said:
F stands for centripetal force, M stands for mass, and a stands for centripetal acceleration. This is the formula we used in class:
F=ma
Is this the equation of centripetal force or just Newton's 2nd Law for Circular Motion?

Centripetal acceleration = v2/R .It is the same thing as 'a' in ƩF = Ma .There is nothing called Newton's Law for circular motion.

Which force provides the car centripetal acceleration (i.e acceleration towards the center) ? Equate this force to Mv2/R just like you do in ƩF = Ma .
 
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