Maximizing and Minimizing Distance of a Bullet Fired from a Satellite

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An Earth satellite fires a bullet aimed directly at the planet, with the bullet's muzzle velocity being half the satellite's orbital speed. The initial velocity of the bullet is calculated using conservation of momentum and energy principles, leading to a quadratic equation for the distance from the Earth's center. The derived equation yields incorrect maximum and minimum distances, prompting a review of the algebra involved. The key error identified is the misapplication of angular momentum conservation, as the radial velocity component does not affect angular momentum. Correcting this leads to the accurate distances of 2a and 2a/3 for the bullet's trajectory.
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Homework Statement



An Earth satellite is revolving in a circular orbit of radius 'a' with velocity 'v0'. A gun is in the satellite and is aimed directly towards the earth.A bullet is fired from the gun with muzzle velocity v0/2.Neglecting resistance offered by cosmic dust and recoil of gun,calculate maximum and minimum distance of bullet from the center of Earth during its subsequent motion.

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Orbital speed of satellite is \sqrt{\frac{GM}{a}}

Initial velocity of the bullet v_{i} = \sqrt{{v_o}^2+(\frac{v_0}{2})^2} = \frac{\sqrt{5}v_{0}}{2}

Let P be the point at which bullet is fired and Q be point where distance is maximum/minimum.

Applying conservation of angular momentum at P and Q

mv_{i}a=mvr

or , v = \frac{v_{i}a}{r} = \frac{\sqrt{5}}{2}\frac{av_0}{r}

Applying conservation of mechanical energy at P and Q

\frac{1}{2}m{v_i}^2 - \frac{GMm}{a} = \frac{1}{2}m{v}^2 - \frac{GMm}{r}

Solving the equations , I get 3r^2-8ar+5a^2 = 0 which gives r =5/3a and a .

The answer i am getting is incorrect .

The correct answer given is 2a and 2a/3 .

I would be grateful if somebody could help me with the problem.
 
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Tanya Sharma said:

Homework Statement



An Earth satellite is revolving in a circular orbit of radius 'a' with velocity 'v0'. A gun is in the satellite and is aimed directly towards the earth.A bullet is fired from the gun with muzzle velocity v0/2.Neglecting resistance offered by cosmic dust and recoil of gun,calculate maximum and minimum distance of bullet from the center of Earth during its subsequent motion.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



Orbital speed of satellite is \sqrt{\frac{GM}{a}}

Initial velocity of the bullet v_{i} = \sqrt{{v_o}^2+(\frac{v_0}{2})^2} = \frac{\sqrt{5}v_{0}}{2}

Let P be the point at which bullet is fired and Q be point where distance is maximum/minimum.

Applying conservation of angular momentum at P and Q

mv_{i}a=mvr

or , v = \frac{v_{i}a}{r} = \frac{\sqrt{5}}{2}\frac{av_0}{r}

Applying conservation of mechanical energy at P and Q

\frac{1}{2}m{v_i}^2 - \frac{GMm}{a} = \frac{1}{2}m{v}^2 - \frac{GMm}{r}

Solving the equations , I get 3r^2-8ar+ {\color{red}{5a^2}} = 0 which gives r =5/3a and a .
Check your algebra for that last term in your quadratic. Otherwise you've done fine up to that point.
 
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Hi gneill...

Sorry...I couldn't find any algebraic error .I redid the calculations . Maybe I am committing the same mistake again .

I keep on getting r=5a/3 and a .
 
Tanya Sharma said:
Hi gneill...

Sorry...I couldn't find any algebraic error .I redid the calculations . Maybe I am committing the same mistake again .

I keep on getting r=5a/3 and a .

Can't fix what we can't see...

Can you elaborate your derivation of the quadratic a bit?
 
\frac{1}{2}m{v_i}^2 - \frac{GMm}{a} = \frac{1}{2}m{v}^2 - \frac{GMm}{r}

\frac{1}{2}m\frac{5}{4}\frac{GM}{a} - \frac{GMm}{a} = \frac{1}{2}m\frac{5}{4}\frac{a^2}{r^2}\frac{GM}{a} - \frac{GMm}{r}

\frac{5}{8a}-\frac{1}{a} = \frac{5}{8}\frac{a}{r^2}-\frac{1}{r}

\frac{-3}{8a} = \frac{1}{8r^2}(5a-8r)

3r^2-8ar+5a^2 = 0 which gives r=5a/3 ,a
 
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\frac{1}{2}m{v_i}^2 - \frac{GMm}{a} = \frac{1}{2}m{v}^2 - \frac{GMm}{r}

\frac{1}{2}m\frac{5}{4}\frac{GM}{a} - \frac{GMm}{a} = \frac{1}{2}m\frac{5}{4}\frac{a^2}{r^2}\frac{GM}{a} - \frac{GMm}{r}
The LHS looks fine. But the velocity used on the RHS should be the velocity as obtained via the conservation of angular momentum:

##r \cdot v = a \cdot v_o## {angular momentum depends on the velocity component perpendicular to the radius vector}

##v = \frac{a}{r} v_o##

## v^2 = \left( \frac{a}{r} \right)^2 v_o^2## where: ##~~~v_o^2 = \frac{GM}{a}##
 
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Thanks gneill :smile:
 
Here's the source of your error:

Tanya Sharma said:
Applying conservation of angular momentum at P and Q

mv_{i}a=mvr

The radial component of velocity does not contribute to angular momentum. This means that firing the gun doesn't change the bullet's orbital angular momentum.
 
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