Maximizing My Physics Degree: Considering a Second Degree or Pursuing a PhD

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The discussion revolves around the considerations of a physics major regarding the potential pursuit of a second degree in mathematics or computer science versus immediately enrolling in a PhD program. Participants explore the implications of each option on future career prospects in academia and industry.

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  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the value of pursuing a second degree as a backup plan for job prospects after graduation, noting concerns about the job market for physics majors.
  • Another participant emphasizes the risks associated with changing schools for a PhD, suggesting that staying with a familiar advisor and research topic may be beneficial.
  • A different viewpoint challenges the notion that physics graduates struggle to find jobs, referencing statistics from the American Institute of Physics to support this claim.
  • Some participants propose that while a math degree could be advantageous for theoretical physics, a computer science degree may be excessive, suggesting that basic programming skills could suffice for employment in tech-related fields.
  • There is a suggestion that a minor in mathematics might be adequate rather than pursuing a full second degree.

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Participants express differing opinions on the necessity and value of pursuing additional degrees versus entering a PhD program directly. There is no consensus on the best path forward, with multiple competing views remaining on the implications of each option.

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Participants discuss various assumptions regarding job market conditions for physics graduates, the impact of school prestige on future opportunities, and the relevance of additional degrees in relation to specific career goals. These points remain unresolved and depend on individual circumstances.

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Students considering advanced degrees in physics or related fields, individuals evaluating the job market for physics graduates, and those interested in the intersection of physics with mathematics or computer science.

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I am currently a physics major at a fairly small school, that is not know for its physics program. I got into better schools, but I chose this one due to financial reasons. I'm on track to graduate in the spring, and I'm a bit torn between a few options that I have.

I can easily finish a second degree. A math degree would only take me 1 extra semester and 3 courses during the summer, and a CS degree would take me 3 extra semesters (I'm on track to graduate early anyway). Would this be a good idea? I've heard lots of physics majors have a hard time getting a job after they complete their degree, would this be a good backup plan if academia doesn't work out?

My other option is to go for a PhD right away. I've been working with the same advisor for about 2 years now, and I really like my research. My advisor believes that if I were to stay with him for graduate school, I could finish my PhD quite quickly (his estimation is ~3 years for a masters+PhD). Other people have told me that it isn't a good idea to get an undergraduate degree and a graduate degree from the same school, and that I should apply to a more "prestigious" graduate school. How true is this? If my ultimate goal was to do research (university or industry) would it hurt me in the long run if I were to stay here for graduate school?

Feedback would be appreciated
 
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There are many risks involved in doing a PhD. One of the major issues (in my opinion) is that you have to find a research subject and an advisor who fit you well. If you change to another school, you run the risk of getting an advisor or a topic which could make you disinterested in research. Right now, you have an advisor/topic that you really like. So changing school is a considerable risk in my opinion.
On the other hand, a more prestigious school could give you more options down the road. And it might give you a different perspective on things if you switch schools.

It's up to you really. If it were my choice, I would stay in the school you're in now.
 
A math degree would probably be helpful although not essential if you're interested in further academic work in theoretical physics. A CS degree is probably overkill as just a few programming classes and spending some time on personal projects to demonstrate your skills will be enough to get a foot in local businesses on the computing side. You probably won't be getting a job at Google but hey they hire people with all kinds of weird backgrounds, a CS degree will probably not make a difference.

In either case just taking a handful of extra courses for a minor would probably be sufficient anyway.
 

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