Maximum entropy and thermal equilibrium

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of maximum entropy and thermal equilibrium in the context of two objects exchanging heat. One object has mass m1 and specific heat c1, while the other has mass m2 and specific heat c2. The temperatures of the objects before contact are T1 and T2, with T2 being greater than T1. The participants are exploring the entropy changes associated with this heat exchange and the conditions for thermodynamic equilibrium.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of entropy changes for irreversible processes and the application of energy conservation principles. There are attempts to derive expressions for entropy and energy conservation, with some participants questioning the relationship between temperature changes and specific heat capacities. Others express uncertainty about integrating to find maximum entropy conditions.

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3) An object of mass m1, specific heat c, and temperature T1 is placed in contact with a second object of mass m2, specific heat c2 and temperature T2>T1. As a result, the temperature of the first object increases to T and the temperature of the second object decreases to T'.

a) Show that the entropy increase of the system is

deltaS = m1c1 ln(T/T1) + m2c2ln (T'/T2)

b) Show that energy conservation requires that

m1c1(T-T1) = m2c2 (T2-T')

c)Show that the entropy change in S, considered as a function of T, is a maximum if T' = T, which is just the condition of thermodynamic equilibrium.
 
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This is what I get

a) This is a calculation of an entropy change for an irreversible process. Since entropy is a state function, ΔS is independent of path. All we have to do is imagine a reversible path which will effect the same change and calculate the entropy change for the reversibly path.

ΔS_total = ΔS_cold + ΔS_hot


ΔS_total = m1c1 integral T1 to T (dT/T) + m2c2 integral T2 to T' (dT/T)

ΔS_total = m1c1 ln(T/T1) + m2c2 ln(T'/T2)

b) C = Q/dT

therefore m1(Q/dT)(T-T1)=m2(Q_2/dT)(T2-T')


Due to conservation of energy, these two equations must be equal. Because the Heat capacities differ, T and T' are different as well.
I know the specific heat is somehow supposed to cancel out the temp change but I am not sure what dt = for each side. somebody help :confused:

C) no clue what do do here, maybe integrate from T to T'? :confused:
 
c) you must get the total differential of S considered as a function of T (i.e. an equation of the form dS = f(T)dT +...

And since a max in entropy means dS=0, what condition does this set on f(T)?
 
total differential would be f(t)dt+f(t1)dt+f(t2)dt+f(t')dt?

sorry, I'm very bad at calculus.
 

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