What is the final temperature?

In summary: So the final temperature will be zero degrees Celsius. In summary, when 30g of ice at -15 degree celcius is added to 100g of water at 25 degree celcius, the final temperature will be 0 degrees Celsius. This is because the energy required to melt the ice is greater than the energy released by cooling the water. The final temperature is determined by the equilibrium between the energy gained by the ice and the energy lost by the water. Therefore, the remaining ice and water will reach an equilibrium temperature of 0 degrees Celsius.
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shin777
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30g of ice at -15 degree celcius is added to 100g of water at 25 degree celcius. What is the final temperature?

T1=ice
T2=H2O

at equilibrium must have
m1c1(Te-T1)+m1k=m2c2(T2-Te) [k=3.3x10^5 J/K fusion heat coeff.]

then
Te=(m1c1T1+m2c2T2-m1k)/(m1c1+m2c2)
T1=268 k
T2=298 K
c1=2090 J/(kg K)
c2=4186 J/(kg K)
Te=(0.02*2090*268+0.1*4186*298-0.02*3.3… / (0.02*2090+0.1*4186)
Te=280,9 K
Te=7.8 C

Final Temperature is 7.8 C

does this look ok?
 
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shin777 said:
30g of ice at -15 degree celcius is added to 100g of water at 25 degree celcius. What is the final temperature?

T1=ice
T2=H2O

at equilibrium must have
m1c1(Te-T1)+m1k=m2c2(T2-Te) [k=3.3x10^5 J/K fusion heat coeff.]

then
Te=(m1c1T1+m2c2T2-m1k)/(m1c1+m2c2)
T1=268 k
T2=298 K
c1=2090 J/(kg K)
c2=4186 J/(kg K)
Te=(0.02*2090*268+0.1*4186*298-0.02*3.3… / (0.02*2090+0.1*4186)
Te=280,9 K
Te=7.8 C

Final Temperature is 7.8 C

does this look ok?

Can't quite follow your calculations but looking at it conceptually.

Specific heat for ice is about half that of water, so you will need much less heat to warm the ice up to zero degrees than it takes to cool the water to zero degrees.
Less mass of ice, smaller temperature change and easier to change so a win on all three counts.

Big question - how much heat do you need to melt the ice?

If you need more heat to melt the ice than you need to cool the water to zero degrees you will end up with an ice/water mix at zero degrees.
 
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hmm.. my tutor help me to solve this problem but now I look at it again, some of these equation don't make sense. any suggestion? :(
 
  • #4
How many kg is 30 g of water?
 
  • #5
Rather than write one huge equation which no one can understand, and which is prone to error, look at the problem in stages:

1. Find the amount of heat transfer to the ice to bring its temp. to 0 deg. C
2. Find the amount of heat transfer to the ice to cause its phase change from solid to liquid.
3. Find the equilibrium temperature of the now melted ice and the cooled water.

In this way, it is easier to detect and fix any mistakes in the calculations.
 
  • #6
There doesn't appear to be enough energy in the starting components for all 130g to be water.

One way to do this is to work out the energy contained in the starting components (eg relative to absolute zero). Then apply conservation of energy... pretend you have 130g of ice at abs zero and see how hot it would end up be if you added that energy.

There appears to be enough to raise it all to 273K (aka 0C) but not quite enough left to melt it all to water.
 
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how about this one?
latent heat of fusion(L) = 80 cal g
Mc = mass of ice

heat gained = (Mc *4180 * 15) + (Mc * L) + (Mc * 4180 * t)
heat gained = (30 * 4180 *15) + (30 * 80) + (30 * 4180 * t)
t = -15c

final temp is -15c
 
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shin777 said:
how about this one?
latent heat of fusion(L) = 80 cal g
Mc = mass of ice

heat gained = (Mc *4180 * 15) + (Mc * L) + (Mc * 4180 * t)
heat gained = (30 * 4180 *15) + (30 * 80) + (30 * 4180 * t)
t = -15c

final temp is -15c

If you are going to use 80 for the latent heat, you need to use 1 for the SHC of water and about 0.5 for the ice.*

To heat the ice to 0 degrees you need

0.03 x 15 x 2090 Joules.

To melt all that ice you need 0.03 x 3.3 x 105 J

So to get the ice from -15 up to water at 0 degrees you need the sum of those two.

To Cool the water to 0 degrees you need to extract

0.1 x 25 x 4180 Joules

That is more than enough to get the ice up to zero degrees, but nowhere near enough to melt all the ice - so you will be left with a mix of ice and water - naturally at zero degrees.
 

1. What factors affect the final temperature in a system?

The final temperature in a system is affected by several factors including the initial temperatures of the components, the amount of heat transfer between the components, and the specific heat capacities of the materials involved. Other factors may include the presence of external factors such as pressure or radiation.

2. How do you calculate the final temperature in a system?

The final temperature in a system can be calculated using the law of conservation of energy. This involves equating the heat gained by one component to the heat lost by the other component. The equation can be written as: m1c1ΔT1 = m2c2ΔT2, where m is the mass of the component, c is the specific heat capacity, and ΔT is the change in temperature. By solving for the unknown variable, the final temperature can be determined.

3. Can the final temperature in a system be higher than the initial temperature of any of the components?

No, the final temperature in a system cannot be higher than the initial temperature of any of the components. This is because the law of conservation of energy dictates that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred. Therefore, the total heat gained by one component must be equal to the total heat lost by the other, resulting in a final temperature that is between the initial temperatures of the two components.

4. How does insulating the system affect the final temperature?

Insulating the system can affect the final temperature by reducing the amount of heat transfer between the components. This means that the final temperature may be lower than it would have been without insulation. However, insulation can also help maintain the final temperature for a longer period of time by preventing heat from escaping the system.

5. Is the final temperature the same for all systems?

No, the final temperature is not the same for all systems. The initial temperatures, heat transfer mechanisms, and specific heat capacities of the components can vary greatly between systems, resulting in different final temperatures. Additionally, external factors such as pressure and radiation can also affect the final temperature in a system.

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