Maximum work done in a Carnot Cycle

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In a Carnot Cycle, the total work done is primarily determined by the isothermal processes, expressed as -NR(Th-Tc)ln(Vb/Va). The discussion raises the question of whether the work done by monatomic and diatomic ideal gases is equivalent, given that the formula does not depend on gamma. However, the ratio of work done by diatomic gas to monatomic gas, W'/W, is noted to be 1/3 in the textbook, suggesting that certain conditions are assumed, specifically that Th is four times larger than Tc and the pressure ratio is 64. The fixed pressure ratio significantly influences the calculations between the two types of gases. Further analysis of the equations in terms of heat capacities is recommended to clarify the discrepancy.
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Given that in a Carnot Cycle the two adiabatic processes are essentially equal and opposite in magnitude the total work done by the cycle is in the two isotherms. The total work of the system is generally given as -NR(Th-Tc)ln(Vb/Va). Does this mean that the work done by a monatomic ideal gas is the same as the work done by a diatomic ideal gas since there is no dependence on gamma?
 
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BrianSauce said:
Given that in a Carnot Cycle the two adiabatic processes are essentially equal and opposite in magnitude the total work done by the cycle is in the two isotherms. The total work of the system is generally given as -NR(Th-Tc)ln(Vb/Va). Does this mean that the work done by a monatomic ideal gas is the same as the work done by a diatomic ideal gas since there is no dependence on gamma?
Yes. So...?
 
I'm trying to show the ratio of W'/W where W' is the work done by a diatomic gas in one carnot cycle and W is the work done by a monatomic gas in one carnot cycle. Based on the above, shouldn't this ratio be 1? However I see in my textbook that this is 1/3.
 
They must be assuming.toat something is being held constant. What is the exact wording?
 
The exact wording is that the Th is 4 times larger than Tc and the ratio of maximum to minimum pressure is 64, i.e. P1/P3 = 64.
 
BrianSauce said:
The exact wording is that the Th is 4 times larger than Tc and the ratio of maximum to minimum pressure is 64, i.e. P1/P3 = 64.
Okay. The key to this is P1/P3 is fixed. This is going to change things between the monoatomic and the diatomic cases. Work out all the equations in terms of the heat capacities, and see what you get.

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This is the work I have done so far. I have established that W'/W = ln(V'B/Va)/ln(VB/VA) and I also found that the ratio of VC/VA = 16 using the pressure ratio. Points A, B, C, and D refer to the same points as 1, 2, 3, and 4 respectively.
 

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