Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution -- Maxwell's argument

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The discussion revolves around the assumptions and derivations related to the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution, particularly focusing on the independence of velocity components in a three-dimensional space. Participants explore the implications of rotational invariance and the conditions under which the probability density function (pdf) can be expressed as a product of individual component distributions.

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  • Some participants assert that the pdf F must be separable into individual components, leading to the assumption of stochastic independence of velocity components.
  • Others argue that this assumption is intuitive but not derivable, suggesting that it is merely an assumption rather than a proven fact.
  • A participant references Alexander A. Schekochihin's work, indicating that Maxwell conjectured the independence of velocity components, which can be proven under certain conditions in kinetic theory.
  • Some participants highlight the contradiction between the assumption of stochastic independence and the implications of rotational invariance, which suggests that knowledge of one component's distribution informs the others.
  • Another viewpoint emphasizes that while the assumption may hold for non-relativistic gases, it does not apply in relativistic contexts, where the distribution does not factorize as assumed by Maxwell.

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Participants express disagreement regarding the validity and implications of the assumption of stochastic independence of velocity components. Multiple competing views remain on the justification of this assumption and its applicability in different contexts.

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The discussion reveals limitations in the assumptions made regarding the independence of velocity components, particularly in relation to relativistic gases and the conditions under which the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution is derived.

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The attached image shows the text I am following. I get that the 3-D pdf F can only depend on the speed v. I also understand that if f_x , f_y, f_z are the pdfs of the individual components of velocity, then rotational invariance requires them to all be the same function f_x = f_y = f_z = ϕ. What seems to be missing is that F must be separable, that is F must satisfy

F = f_x f_y f_z

Why must F be separable?
 

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That's the assumption that the three velocity components are stochastically independent. Thus you have the ansatz
$$F(v)=f(v_x) f(v_y) f(v_z).$$
To get the functions ##F## and ##f## we take the logarithmic derivative with respect to ##v_x##, which leads to
$$\frac{1}{F(v)} \partial_{v_x} F(v)=\frac{1}{F(v)} \frac{v_x}{v} F'(v)=\frac{f'(v_x)}{f(v_x)}$$
or
$$\frac{F'(v)}{v F(v)}=\frac{f'(v_x)}{v_x f(v_x)}.$$
Now we define
$$\Phi(v)=\frac{F'(v)}{v F(v)}, \quad \phi(v_x)=\frac{f'(v_x)}{v_x f(v_x)}.$$
Then we have
$$\Phi(v)=\phi(v_x).$$
Then we take the derivative of this equation with, say, ##v_y##. The right-hand side doesn't depend on ##v_y## and thus
$$\frac{v_y}{v} \Phi'(v)=0 \; \Rightarrow \; \Phi'(v)=0 \; \Rightarrow \; \Phi(v)=C=\text{const}.$$
Thus we have
$$\Phi(v)=\frac{F'(v)}{v F(v)}=C \; \Rightarrow \; \frac{F'(v)}{F(v)}=C v \; \Rightarrow \; \ln \left (\frac{F(v)}{F(0)} \right) = \frac{C}{2} v^2 \; \Rightarrow \; F(v)=F(0) \exp \left (\frac{C}{2} v^2 \right).$$
For this to be properly normalizable distribution function, we must have ##C<0##, and thus the distribution is Gaussian. Now writing ##C=-2 \gamma## with ##\gamma>0##
$$F(v)=F(0) \exp (-\gamma \vec{v}^2)$$
and
$$f(v_x)=[F(0)]^{1/3} \exp(-\gamma v_x^2).$$
 
Thank you for that. I follow all the steps but the first one. Why do we assume that the three velocity components are stochastically independent?
 
That's an assumption. You can not derive it otherwise it would not be an assumption. It is quite intuitive though.
 
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Thanks but I don't see it. There must be some argument in favor of the assumption. Right?
 
You are right. It's not a convincing argument since it's not correct in the relativistic case though it has the same symmetries argued with here.

The correct argument for the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution is kinetic theory, which leads to the characterization of the equilibrium phase-space distributions as those of maximum entropy given the constraints imposed by conservation laws. This leads, for the canonical ensemble of the non-interacting gas, to
$$f(t,\vec{x},\vec{p})=\frac{1}{Z} \exp(-\beta H), \quad \beta=\frac{1}{k_{\text{B}} T}, \quad Z=\int_{V} \mathrm{d}^3 x \int_{\mathbb{R}^3} \mathrm{d}^3 \vec{p} \exp(-\beta H).$$
 
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That's an assumption. You can not derive it otherwise it would not be an assumption. It is quite intuitive though.

I am not sure whether this is merely an assumption. In his "Lectures on Kinetic Theory of Gases and Statistical Physics“ [1], Alexander A. Schekochihin writes in section “2.1. Maxwell’s Distribution” (page 16):

Maxwell (1860) argued (or conjectured) that the three components of the velocity vector must be independent random variables.10

10It is possible to prove this for classical ideal gas either from Statistical Mechanics (see x11.10) or by analysing elastic binary collisions (Boltzmann 1995; Chapman & Cowling 1991), but here we will simply assume that this is true.

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Lectures on Kinetic Theory of Gases and Statistical Physics
 
There are two strangely mirrored but opposite assumptions here. On the one hand, stochastic independence amounts to saying "If we made a series of measurements to get the distribution of velocity components along one axis, it gives us no information about the distribution along orthogonal axes." However, rotational invariance means that if we know the distribution of the velocity component along anyone axis, we know it for ALL axes.
 
Well, it's an assumption which by chance is true for the non-relativistic gas in classical approximation. The correct answer is Boltzmann's derivation from his kinetic/transport equation and his H theorem, which identifies the state of maximum entropy (with entropy defined as the Shannon-Jaynes entropy of information theory, as anticipated by Landauer and Szilard before) as the equilibrium state.

Already for the relativistic ideal gas it's not true but, in the rest frame of the fluid, reads
$$f(\vec{x},\vec{p})=\frac{g}{(2 \pi \hbar)^3} \exp(-\beta \sqrt{c^2 \vec{p}^2+m^2 c^4}),$$
which does not factorize in the manner assumed by Maxwell.
 
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