Measuring Voltage with Step-Down Adapters: Questions & Answers

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the measurement of voltage using step-down adapters in the context of building an energy monitor. Participants explore the implications of measuring voltage from a single outlet, particularly in relation to the configuration of electrical circuits in a household.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how a step-down adapter can measure voltage usage from a single outlet, given that appliances like dryers and air conditioners are typically on separate circuits.
  • Another participant explains that the low source impedance of AC mains power allows for voltage measurement from any outlet, assuming balanced loads.
  • A participant requests additional resources to understand why voltage can be measured from a single outlet.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the implications of low source impedance, suggesting that the transformer supplying power is rated to prevent voltage sag when power is drawn.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the initial confusion regarding voltage measurement from a single outlet, but there is agreement on the technical explanation of low source impedance allowing for such measurements.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference assumptions about load balancing and the characteristics of the power supply, but these assumptions remain unexamined in detail.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in energy monitoring, electrical engineering, or those building similar measurement devices may find this discussion relevant.

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I am currently building an energy monitor according the the specifications of this site,http://openenergymonitor.org/emon/node/59. I understand how the current is measured but I am confused by the voltage measurement circuit.
I do not understand how the step-down adapter can correctly measure voltage usage from one outlet. I understand that the lights and outlets are in series but I was reading that typically dryers and air conditioners are typically on a separate circuit. So how can the voltage used from these appliances be measured from the one outlet?

Thanks.
 
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whiterabbot1 said:
I am currently building an energy monitor according the the specifications of this site,http://openenergymonitor.org/emon/node/59. I understand how the current is measured but I am confused by the voltage measurement circuit.
I do not understand how the step-down adapter can correctly measure voltage usage from one outlet. I understand that the lights and outlets are in series but I was reading that typically dryers and air conditioners are typically on a separate circuit. So how can the voltage used from these appliances be measured from the one outlet?

Thanks.

The source imedance for your AC Mains power is very low, so unless there is a fault somewhere, you can measure you whole-house AC Mains voltage from any outlet in your house. This assumes that your two phase loads are reasonably well balanced (USA comment).
 
I know that you can but I do not understand why you can. If you could point me to some good resources that would be great.

Thanks.
 
When berkeman says,
The source impedance for your AC Mains power is very low...
(bold p added by me), implies that the transformer that is providing this power is rated so the voltage won't sag when you take power from it. Also, the power company is able to deliver such large amounts of power that flipping on a light switch has really no effect on lowering what can be supplied.

Here's a couple of links that you might find interesting.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/hsehld2.html#c1"
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/hsehld.html#c1"

Regards
 
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