Mechanical energy of frictionless pulley

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a frictionless pulley system with two masses, M and m, where M is initially moving and m falls a certain height. The user attempts to apply energy conservation principles but struggles with the calculations, particularly in incorporating the effects of tension and kinetic energy correctly. Feedback from other participants highlights errors in the user's energy balance, specifically the incorrect addition of energy and force terms, and the omission of potential energy changes. Clarification is requested for a step-by-step breakdown of the user's calculations to identify the mistakes. The correct final speed for mass M should be approximately 4.31 m/s when using the standard gravitational acceleration.
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Homework Statement


In the system shown, the block M (mass of 15.65 kg) is initially moving to the left with a speed of 3.4 m/s The mass of m is 8.26 kg and the coefficients of friction are μs=0.411 and μk=0.304. The string is massless and the pulley is massless and frictionless. How fast will M be traveling when m has fallen through a height h=2.47 meters?

diagram: http://is.byu.edu/courses/univ/694820121008/media/8_problem_blockmass.jpg

Homework Equations


Ef - Ei = Kf - Ki + Uf - Ui = -fkd + ∑ W_otherforces

K = 1/2mv^2
U=mgy

The Attempt at a Solution


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Since M does not have any change in potential energy, but it is acted on by a tension force, I got

Ef - Ei = 1/2mvf2 - 1/2mvi2 = -fkd + T
where fkd = μkMgd and T = (( μk+1)Mg)/(1+M/m)

I solve for vf but keep getting the wrong answer. The answer should be about 4.32 m/s
What am I doing wrong?
 
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Hello DNS, welcome to PF :smile: !

I looks like you are adding an energy (fkd) to a force (T) That can't be !

It also looks like your change in kinetic energy doesn't depend on M, which is very strange.

Finally, your energy balance should also have a term Uf - Ui which I miss in your solution attempt.

If you show your work, step by step, I may be able to answer your question. With the information you provide now it's impossible.

(And I do get 4.31 m/s if I use g = 9.81 m/s2 )
 
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