Mechanics Elastic springs question

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The discussion revolves around a particle attached to an elastic spring on a rough surface, exploring the conditions under which the particle is instantaneously at rest after being released from a compressed state. The user attempts to apply conservation of energy to demonstrate that the particle's velocity is zero at a specific distance but encounters difficulties. It is clarified that energy is not conserved due to friction, which reduces the total energy by the work done against it. The user acknowledges the oversight regarding friction's impact on the energy calculations. Understanding the role of friction is crucial for accurately solving the problem.
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A particle of mass m is attached to one end of an elastic spring of natural length l and modulous lambda ..The particle and spring rest on a rough horizontal surface and the other end of the spring is fixed..Th coefficient of friction is mu .the particle is held at rest with the spring compressed to a length 2/3l and then released.Show that the particle is instamtenously at rest when it has a moved a distance x where,..lambda=Y,mu=P
x=\frac{2Yl-6Plmg}{3Y}

Can some one check if my assumptions are right?..

First of all they want me to show the velocity is 0..
I use conservation of energy
\frac{Yl}{18}=\frac{Yx_1^2}{2l}+\frac{1}{2}mv^2
where x_1=\frac{2Yl-6Plmg}{3Y}-\frac{l}{3}
After that I get into big muddle as they don't equal to 0
thanks.
 
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rbnphlp said:
Can some one check if my assumptions are right?..

First of all they want me to show the velocity is 0..
I use conservation of energy
\frac{Yl}{18}=\frac{Yx_1^2}{2l}+\frac{1}{2}mv^2
where x_1=\frac{2Yl-6Plmg}{3Y}-\frac{l}{3}
After that I get into big muddle as they don't equal to 0
thanks.

Energy is not conserved here, because of the friction. However, the energy will decrease by an amount equal to the work done by friction.
 
Redbelly98 said:
Energy is not conserved here, because of the friction. However, the energy will decrease by an amount equal to the work done by friction.

I forgot about friction thanks..
 
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