Mechanism that causes tension and normal force?

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The discussion centers around the mechanisms that cause tension in materials like rubber bands or strings when a force is applied, as well as the explanation for how walls and tables exert normal forces without noticeable bending. The subject area involves concepts of elasticity, material properties, and forces in physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between applied force and the resulting tension in materials, questioning whether elasticity alone accounts for the tension developed. There is also inquiry into the fundamental properties that prevent materials from failing under stress, including the types of bonds that hold materials together.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and raising further questions about the underlying mechanisms of tension and normal forces. Some participants suggest that a deeper understanding of material bonds may be necessary, while others propose that the focus should remain on the concepts of tension and compression.

Contextual Notes

There is an indication that this is a first-year physics course, which may influence the depth of understanding and the concepts being discussed. Participants are also considering the implications of different types of forces and material behaviors in their responses.

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Homework Statement



What is a mechanism that might cause a rubber band or a string to develop tension in response to a force that you apply?

What mechanism explains how walls and tables exert normal forces without bending noticeably?

Homework Equations



None, since this is a conceptual question.

The Attempt at a Solution



I initially wrote down the elasticity of the material used for the rubber band as well as the wall. However, I'm not completely sure my reasoning is correct. Elasticity only affects how much the object would stretch when a force is applied, not the tension force that is developed in response. Even if you had two rubber bands, one more stiffer than the other, if you applied the same amount of force on them, wouldn't they exert the same amount of tension back? In that case then, wouldn't it be the magnitude of the force exerted upon the rubber band or wall that is the mechanism?
 
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I think they are asking for a deeper explanation. For example what stops a rubber band (or anything else) simply falling apart when a force is applied? What keeps the material together?
 
CWatters said:
I think they are asking for a deeper explanation. For example what stops a rubber band (or anything else) simply falling apart when a force is applied? What keeps the material together?

I'm not completely sure about that, since it's a first year physics course. But if they were asking for a deeper explanation, wouldn't that involve discussing the types of bonds that make up the material?
 
May not need to explain the different type of bonds, just that bonds are involved?

The question about walls and tables asks why they don't bend so perhaps this is also a question about tension rather than compression? Otherwise for compression I think you have to talk about the Pauli exclusion principle? But have you covered that yet?
 

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