Differential Geometry: Comparing Metric Tensors

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  • #31
Infrared said:
The proof does not consider the degree of a map ##X\to X##, but of a map ##X^4\to X^4##. This makes sense because ##X^4\cong\mathbb{R}^6##. I think @WWGD had a typo of ##X^6## for ##\mathbb{R}^6## in his post.

Not really my point. The underlying intuition was that the iterated mapping ##h^2## on ##X^4## is orientation preserving. So how is ##X^4## orientable in the first place? What does that mean?E.g.if ##X## is a non-orientable manifold then ##X^4## is also non-orientable. For instance the four fold Cartesian product of the real projective plane with itself is not orientable. In fact is ##w_{i}## is the generator of its first ##Z_3## cohomology then the first Stiefel-Whitney class of the four fouldCartesian product is ##w_1+w_2+w_3+w_4##.

BTW: I am curious to see your Kunneth formula proof.
 
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  • #32
Sorry I must be missing something. ##\mathbb{R}^6## is orientable, and ##X^4## is homeomorphic to ##\mathbb{R}^6##, so it is also orientable. If you're asking what definition of orientable works here, I think you can use the usual definition of being able to consistently choose generators for the local homology groups ##H_6(X^4,X^4-\text{point})##.
 
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  • #33
Infrared said:
Sorry I must be missing something. ##\mathbb{R}^6## is orientable, and ##X^4## is homeomorphic to ##\mathbb{R}^6##, so it is also orientable. If you're asking what definition of orientable works here, I think you can use the usual definition of being able to consistently choose generators for the local homology groups ##H_6(X^4,X^4-\text{point})##.

Right. Now I get it. Nice.

There is a theorem here that is implicitly assumed which is that the square of any homeomorphism of an orientable manifold is orientation preserving. This is clear for a compact manifold but for a non-compact manifold, how does one prove it?
 
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  • #36
Infrared said:
The proof does not consider the degree of a map ##X\to X##, but of a map ##X^4\to X^4##. This makes sense because ##X^4\cong\mathbb{R}^6##. I think @WWGD had a typo of ##X^6## for ##\mathbb{R}^6## in his post.
Myb bad, thanks for pointing it out , for links and followup. I am editing as we speak.
 
  • #37
lavinia said:
There is a theorem here that is implicitly assumed which is that the square of any homeomorphism of an orientable manifold is orientation preserving. This is clear for a compact manifold but for a non-compact manifold, how does one prove it?

I think the point is the same as in the closed case. If ##X## is orientable, then all of the local homology groups ##H_n(X,X-\text{point})## are naturally isomorphic (identify the preferred generators), so a homeomorphism ##f:X\to X## with ##f(x_1)=x_2## gives an isomorphism ##H_n(X,X-x_1)\to H_n(X,X-x_2)\cong H_n(X,X-x_1),## and then ##f\circ f## has to induce the identity, so ##f\circ f## preserves orientation.

The only difference from the closed case is that the generators are not induced by a homology class of ##X##.
 
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  • #38
Infrared said:
I think the point is the same as in the closed case. If ##X## is orientable, then all of the local homology groups ##H_n(X,X-\text{point})## are naturally isomorphic (identify the preferred generators), so a homeomorphism ##f:X\to X## with ##f(x_1)=x_2## gives an isomorphism ##H_n(X,X-x_1)\to H_n(X,X-x_2)\cong H_n(X,X-x_1),## and then ##f\circ f## has to induce the identity, so ##f\circ f## preserves orientation.

The only difference from the closed case is that the generators are not induced by a homology class of ##X##.
Right. Two oriented charts are connected by a path of overlapping oriented charts.
 

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