Can't Make Steel By Transmuting Atoms: Betting $20 On It!

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of creating steel through the transmutation of carbon and oxygen. It clarifies that transmutation involves altering atomic nuclei, which is not practical under normal conditions due to strong electromagnetic forces. The conversation highlights that while transmutation can theoretically create new elements via nuclear fission, it typically requires a nuclear reactor and involves splitting atoms rather than combining them to form alloys like steel. Steel, primarily an iron alloy, cannot be synthesized simply by mixing carbon and oxygen. The participants suggest that the bet regarding this topic may need to be reconsidered or settled by consulting further expert opinions.
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Me mate says that that you can make Steal from mixing Carbon atom and Oxygen (Transmution) :eek: Basicly stuffing arround with nuclues. As far as I can remember you can't touch the nuclues as the EM forces are too strong.

How wrong is he? We made a bet of $20 :smile:
 
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Me mate says that that you can make Steal from mixing Carbon atom and Oxygen (Transmution) :eek: Basicly stuffing arround with nuclues. As far as I can remember you can't touch the nuclues as the EM forces are too strong.

How wrong is he? We made a bet of $20 :smile:
First I think it is safe to assume you mean steel (an alloy containing mainly iron).

Transmutation could be used to create new elements (via nuclear fission). It would need a nuclear reactor. However, this would be reducing the size of the atom (so carbon-12 to two smaller elements).

I have heard of making larger elements with smaller ones but I can only assume that only (relatively) small elements can be made by fission. Steel, anyway, is an alloy and it would take a lot of carbon and oxygen to make the iron and other elements needed (unless, of course, carbon was one of the elements needed).

As far as I can see you need to split the money or ask someone else in these forums.

The Bob (2004 ©)

P.S. Could someone correct my knowledge of fission and fusion in modern day reactors if what I have said is incorrect. Thanks.
 
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