Modeling potential energy equations of a balloon bungee jumper

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The discussion revolves around modeling the potential energy of a bungee jumper using gravitational and elastic potential energy equations. The gravitational potential energy is correctly expressed as U = (64)(9.8)y, while the elastic potential energy is modeled as U = 0.5(81)(39.2 - y)^2. Participants clarify that the total mechanical energy remains constant, with the minimum height occurring when kinetic energy is zero. The total energy is initially calculated as mgy, leading to confusion about the minimum height being at the unstretched length of the cord. Ultimately, the focus is on understanding that the total energy includes both gravitational and elastic components, emphasizing the importance of analyzing the system's energy conservation.
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Homework Statement


Starting from rest, a 64.0 kg person bungee jumps from a tethered balloon 65.0 m above the ground. The bungee cord has negligible mass and unstretched length 25.8 m. One end is tied to the basket of the balloon and the other end to the person's body. The cord is modeled as a spring that obeys Hooke's law with a spring constant of 81.0 N/m, and the person is considered to be a particle. The balloon does not move. Find an equation for the total potential energy of the system as a function of height y above the ground and determine the minimum height the person will be above the ground during the plunge.

Homework Equations


Gravitational potential energy is modeled as U = mgy and elastic potential energy is modeled as U = .5ky^2

The Attempt at a Solution


So I thought the gravitational potential equation was straightforward; U = (64)(9.8)y. For the elastic potential equation I am not so sure; I wrote down: U = .5(81)(39.2 - y)^2 since the tether hangs unstretched 39.2 m above the ground. And again, I am not totally sure but the total potential energy equation should simply be the sum of those two equations; U = 627.2y + 40.5(39.2 - y)^2. Even if this equation is correct, I do not know how to find the minimum height of the jumper; is it when the potential energy is 0 J? Any help would be appreciated.
 
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The U expression looks good to me.
I think the minimum height will occur when the kinetic energy is zero, and you'll have to model the total energy in order to find it.
 
Okay, and since there is no air resistance, the person is only subjected to conservative forces, and therefore the total mechanical energy of the system is equal to the sum of kinetic and potential energy. So if kinetic energy has to equal 0 J, the minimum height is when the total mechanical energy is equal to the potential energy. But now I'm stuck on how to find the total energy.
 
Initially the only energy is mgy, so that is the total.
 
Ah, okay, that makes sense. Thank you. :)

Edit: But now looking at it, if the total energy is mgy (which is 627.2y), then the equation becomes 0 = 40.5(39.2 - y)^2, making the y= 39.2, which is means the minimum height is when the rope is unstretched. That does not make sense. I was actually thinking, would the derivative of the potential energy equation have to equal zero since the total energy is always constant (the mechanical is never converted into internal energy)?
 
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Not 627.2y, but m*g*65 = 40810 J.
0 = 40.5(39.2 - y)^2
doesn't make sense. The spring will have a lot of the energy after it stops the falling jumper. I think you want to say:
total E = mgy + spring energy + KE
and consider the point where KE = 0.
 
Ah okay, I think I understand now. Thanks again.
 
Most welcome! An interesting problem.
 
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