Moment of inertia about z-axis in spherical coordinates

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The discussion revolves around calculating the moment of inertia about the z-axis for a solid of uniform density, specifically using spherical coordinates. The solid is bounded by a hemisphere defined by the equation \(\rho = \cos\varphi\) and constrained by the angles \(\pi/4 \leq \varphi \leq \pi/2\) and the cone defined by \(\varphi = \pi/4\).

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  • Participants explore the conversion of the moment of inertia equation into spherical coordinates and question the appropriateness of using cylindrical coordinates. There are discussions about the correct expression for the volume element \(dV\) and the limits of integration for \(\rho\).

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Several participants are actively questioning the setup of the integral, particularly the limits for \(\rho\) and the formulation of \(dV\). There is an acknowledgment of potential errors in the original poster's approach, and suggestions to verify the geometric representation of the volume are being made.

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There are indications of typos and misunderstandings regarding the bounds of integration and the definitions of the solid's boundaries. The original poster's assumption about the radius of the hemisphere is also under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement



Use spherical coordinates to find the moment of inertia about the z-axis of a solid of uniform density bounded by the hemisphere \rho=cos\varphi, \pi/4\leq\varphi\leq\pi/2, and the cone \varphi=4.

Homework Equations



I_{z} = \int\int\int(x^{2}+y^{2})\rho(x, y, z) dV

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to convert that equation to cylindrical coordinates and got this (k representing density because it's uniform)

I_{z} = k \int^{2\pi}_{0}\int^{\pi/2}_{\pi/4}\int^{1}_{0}\rho^2 sin^{2}\varphi*d\rho*d\varphi*d\theta

Plugged that into my calculator and got:

\frac{k\pi(\pi+2)}{12}

The book answer is:
\frac{k\pi}{192}

What am I doing wrong?
 
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clairez93 said:

Homework Statement



Use spherical coordinates to find the moment of inertia about the z-axis of a solid of uniform density bounded by the hemisphere \rho=cos\varphi, \pi/4\leq\varphi\leq\pi/2, and the cone \varphi=4.

You mean \varphi = \pi / 4 for the cone.

Homework Equations



I_{z} = \int\int\int(x^{2}+y^{2})\rho(x, y, z) dV

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to convert that equation to cylindrical coordinates and got this (k representing density because it's uniform)

I_{z} = k \int^{2\pi}_{0}\int^{\pi/2}_{\pi/4}\int^{1}_{0}\rho^2 sin^{2}\varphi*d\rho*d\varphi*d\theta

That doesn't look like cylindrical coordinates to me. But then, why would you want cylindrical coordinates anyway? Assuming that the \rho^2\sin^2(\phi)
is the moment arm, check your spherical coordinate dV.

Plugged that into my calculator and got:

\frac{k\pi(\pi+2)}{12}

The book answer is:
\frac{k\pi}{192}

What am I doing wrong?

Aside from getting the dV wrong, using a calculator?

[Edit] Looking closer your limits for \rho are also wrong.
 
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LCKurtz said:
You mean \varphi = \pi / 4 for the cone.
Yes, sorry, typo.



That doesn't look like cylindrical coordinates to me. But then, why would you want cylindrical coordinates anyway? Assuming that the \rho^2\sin^2(\phi)
is the moment arm, check your spherical coordinate dV.

Sorry, typo, I meant spherical coordinates.

I checked and dV should be

\rho^2\sin^2(\phi)d\rho*d\varphi*d\theta

So that should change the integral to:

I_{z} = k \int^{2\pi}_{0}\int^{\pi/2}_{\pi/4}\int^{1}_{0}(\rho^2 sin^{2}\varphi)^{2}*d\rho*d\varphi*d\theta

Aside from getting the dV wrong, using a calculator?

I usually use my calculator to check my setup, then once I know that is right, I go back and evaluate it by hand.

[Edit] Looking closer your limits for \rho are also wrong.

I'm not sure what to do for \rho, I thought since the radius of the hemisphere was 1, then \rho would go from 0 to 1.
 
clairez93 said:
I checked and dV should be

\rho^2\sin^2(\phi)d\rho*d\varphi*d\theta

The sine should not be squared.

So that should change the integral to:

I_{z} = k \int^{2\pi}_{0}\int^{\pi/2}_{\pi/4}\int^{1}_{0}(\rho^2 sin^{2}\varphi)^{2}*d\rho*d\varphi*d\theta

I'm not sure what to do for \rho, I thought since the radius of the hemisphere was 1, then \rho would go from 0 to 1.

Have you drawn a picture of the desired volume? Your sphere is not centered at the origin and its equation isn't \rho = 1.
 

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