What Is the Moment of Inertia and Frictional Torque of a Rotating Wheel?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the moment of inertia and frictional torque of a rotating wheel subjected to a constant external torque. The wheel accelerates to an angular velocity of +610 rev/min over 24 seconds before coming to rest after the torque is removed. To find the moment of inertia, participants convert angular velocity to rad/sec and apply the equation Tnet = I alpha, resulting in an approximate value of 15 kg·m². For the frictional torque, the same equations are used, leveraging known initial and final angular velocities. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding rotational dynamics and the correct application of relevant equations.
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A wheel free to rotate about its axis that is not frictionless is initially at rest. A constant external torque of +40 N·m is applied to the wheel for 24 s, giving the wheel an angular velocity of +610 rev/min. The external torque is then removed, and the wheel comes to rest 120 s later. (Include the sign in your answers.)

(a) Find the moment of inertia of the wheel.
kg·m2
(b) Find the frictional torque, which is assumed to be constant.
N·m

This whole topic of angular/moment of inertia and torque taking its toll on me. Please bear with me, the more I read in textbook the more confused I get.

Relevant Equations:
Inertia = sum of mi * ri^2
Inertia for continuous objects = integral of r^2 dm

I would use the equation for inertia for continuous objects correct? since the textbook used the other one when given points.
The problem doesn't give us any masses/radius -- How would I start this?

For part B:
relevant equations:
Torque = r x F
Tnet = I alpha

What should I use for the Moment of Inertia for the wheel? It doesn't state it,
some exercise from the book says consider a wheel of a bicycle to be a hoop I = MR^2

Im not sure if this is correct,
I did for translation equation
Fnet = Ma
Ext F + friction = Ma

For rotation
Tnet = I alpha
RF - Rf = 1/2 M R^2 (a/R)
= F-f = 1/2 Ma

I added the two equations
2F = 3/2 Ma
a = 4F/3M

From equation 1
F+f = Ma
f = F/3

Is this even remotely correct?

Please help, thanks so much.
 
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Hey there,

For part a) I don't think you need any more information. In this question you wouldn't find the moment of inertia by summing or integrating.

A word of warning: You haven't been the given the angular velocity, so to start with I would change your rev/min to rad/sec.

See this site: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/mi.html

You need to use the rotational equivalent of v=v-0+a*t, along with Newtons second law rotational equivalent.

Hope this gets you going for the first part
 
It says it gave the wheel an angular velocity of +610 rev/min
to change this to rad/sec.
I got 63.87905062 approx 64 rad/sec.

63.87905062 rad/sec / 24s = 2.661627109 approx 2.7 rad/s^2 is the acceleration
Tnet = I alpha
so Tnet/alpha = I
40 Nm /2.661627109 rad/s^2 = 15.02840110 approx 15 is the Inertia?

Is this correct?
 
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Could someone check if what I did for part A/B is correct?
 
Yes your answer is the same as the one I got. For part b I'd use the same equations except this time you know the moment of inertia and initial and final angular velocities but want to find the frictional torque. You can use the same equations since they say that the frictional torque is constant.

Sorry for the late reply.
 
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