Moment of inertia for physical pendulum

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The discussion revolves around calculating the moment of inertia for a physical pendulum consisting of a rigid strut with two masses attached at different points. The subject area includes concepts from rotational dynamics and moment of inertia calculations.

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  • Participants explore the calculation of moment of inertia for point masses, questioning whether to sum the contributions from each mass. There is discussion about the correct application of formulas for point masses and continuous objects.

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The conversation has progressed through various calculations and corrections regarding the moment of inertia. Some participants have provided guidance on the correct formulas, while others have attempted calculations based on their understanding. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of squaring distances in the calculations.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, focusing on understanding the correct application of formulas without providing complete solutions. There is an emphasis on clarifying assumptions about the setup of the physical pendulum.

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I have a rigid, massless strut of length 11m. A mass of 55kg is located on the free end, and another mass of 55kg is located at the midpoint. I'm having some trouble calculating the moment of inertia I for this physical pendulum.

I = [tex]\int r^{2} dm[/tex] (for continuous objects)

I = [tex]\sum m D[/tex] for all particles/objects composing the system.


I'm a little confused. Should I calculate I for each 55kg mass and add them together?
 
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BoogieBot said:
Should I calculate I for each 55kg mass and add them together?
Exactly.
 
so:
55*5.5 = 302.5
55*11 = 605

so I for the whole pendulum is 907.5 kg-m^2, correct?
 
BoogieBot said:
so:
55*5.5 = 302.5
55*11 = 605

so I for the whole pendulum is 907.5 kg-m^2, correct?
No, your formula for I of a point mass is incorrect. (I didn't notice that earlier.)

BoogieBot said:
I = [tex]\int r^{2} dm[/tex] (for continuous objects)

I = [tex]\sum m D[/tex] for all particles/objects composing the system.
For both continuous objects and point masses, the distance must be squared. (Imagine integrating the first formula to get the second. All of the mass is at the same distance from the axis, so the integral is trivial.)
 
Ah, so then:

55*5.5^2 = 1663.75
55*11^2 = 6655

1663.75 + 6655 = 8318.75 kg-m^2
 
You got it.
 
awesome! thanks!
 

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