Moment of Inertia Lab for discs of mass

In summary, the conversation discusses a Physics lab on finding the relationship between moment of inertia and disc radius. The general formula for the relationship is given as Inertia = (constant k)Radius^2 + Inertia_0. The speaker has determined the relationship to be Inertia = Radius^2 and has plotted a graph of Inertia vs. Radius^2 with a line of best fit, y = 0.7767020443x + 0.00017554163. They are having trouble isolating the constant k and understanding the significance of Inertia_0. The possibility of a non-zero inertia at radius zero due to the shaft on the disc is also discussed.
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Homework Statement


We recently had a Physics lab where we were expected to find a relationship between the moment of inertia and discs of varying radius (discs have same mass), and develop a general equation to illustrate the relationship between moment of inertia and radius for discs of any mass.

Homework Equations


The general formula of the line is Inertia = (constant k)Radius^2 + Inertia_0
Inertia = mr^2((g/a)-1)

The Attempt at a Solution



I have managed to determine the average time, acceleration, and moment of inertia with the experimental time. I have figured out that the relationship between disc radius and moment of inertia is Inertia = Radius^2 (I believe). However, my current problem is a graph of Inertia vs Radius^2 -- my current line of best fit is y=0.7767020443x + 0.00017554163. The general formula of the line is Inertia = (constant k)Radius^2 + Inertia_0 . I have been unable to isolate k, and thus determine the relationship between k and the mass of the discs. (it should be a basic fraction). Also, I am having trouble understanding the significance of Inertia_0 -- should there not be any inertia if the disc has a radius of 0?

Thanks for any assistance you can offer!
 
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Welcome to PF, errorBars!

So x is R², right? And you have y=0.7767020443x + 0.00017554163 which is really Inertia = 0.7767020443R² + 0.00017554163
compared to Inertia = kR² + Inertia_0
It looks pretty straightforward to identify the values of k and Inertia_0.

You would normally expect Inertia at radius zero to be zero since a disk with radius zero really doesn't exist, but in any experiment you probably have a shaft on the disk with some inertia. In view of your nickname, you must have error bars on the graph and an estimate of the accuracy of your slope and y-intercept. Is the 0.00017554163 larger than the error in it? If not, I think you would conclude that it is zero to within experimental error.
 
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Delphi51 said:
Welcome to PF, errorBars!

So x is R², right? And you have y=0.7767020443x + 0.00017554163 which is really Inertia = 0.7767020443R² + 0.00017554163
compared to Inertia = kR² + Inertia_0
It looks pretty straightforward to identify the values of k and Inertia_0.

You would normally expect Inertia at radius zero to be zero since a disk with radius zero really doesn't exist, but in any experiment you probably have a shaft on the disk with some inertia. In view of your nickname, you must have error bars on the graph and an estimate of the accuracy of your slope and y-intercept. Is the 0.00017554163 larger than the error in it? If not, I think you would conclude that it is zero to within experimental error.

Thanks!

I just have a bad feeling about k though... shouldn't k be somewhere around 1/2 of the mass of the discs according to the equation for moment of inertia? (I=(1/2)mr^2)? Unfortunately 0.7767 is not half of 0.5 kg... hm...

Hm, that's what I suspected for the y-intercept. That's probably why the discussion asks how the friction in the axle bearing affects the results? :P
 
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Yes, k should be half the mass. I have no idea why it isn't.
It might be worth going back to the original data and checking one or two or the runs individually to see whether the k is close to the .77. If so, look for some error in the calculations. Always worth eyeballing the graph and calculating the slope by hand! Calculators can get the wrong answer just as fast as the right one.
 
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I commend you for your efforts in conducting this lab and analyzing the data. From your results, it seems that you have successfully determined the relationship between disc radius and moment of inertia. However, as you mentioned, you are having trouble isolating the constant k and understanding the significance of Inertia_0.

To isolate k, you can rearrange the equation to solve for k: k = (Inertia - Inertia_0)/Radius^2. This will give you a value for k that you can then use to determine the relationship between k and the mass of the discs.

Inertia_0 represents the moment of inertia when the disc has a radius of 0. This value may seem insignificant, but it is important in determining the overall relationship between moment of inertia and disc radius. It can also serve as a baseline for comparison with the moment of inertia at other disc radii.

I would also recommend further analysis and experimentation to validate your results and ensure accuracy. Keep up the good work in your scientific endeavors!
 

1. What is the purpose of the Moment of Inertia Lab for discs of mass?

The purpose of this lab is to experimentally determine the moment of inertia for different discs of mass and compare it to the theoretical values. This helps in understanding the concept of moment of inertia and how it relates to the distribution of mass in a rotating object.

2. What equipment is needed for the Moment of Inertia Lab?

The equipment needed for this lab includes a disc of mass, a rotating platform, a stopwatch, a ruler, and a mass scale. Optional equipment includes a video camera and a motion sensor for more accurate measurements.

3. How is the moment of inertia calculated?

The moment of inertia for a disc of mass is calculated using the formula I = 1/2 * m * r2, where m is the mass of the disc and r is the radius of the disc. This formula can also be extended to other shapes using the parallel axis theorem.

4. What factors affect the moment of inertia of a disc of mass?

The moment of inertia of a disc of mass is affected by its mass, radius, and distribution of mass. A larger mass or radius will result in a larger moment of inertia, while a more spread out distribution of mass will result in a smaller moment of inertia.

5. How can the results of the Moment of Inertia Lab be used in real-world applications?

The concept of moment of inertia is important in many real-world applications, such as understanding the stability and motion of rotating objects like wheels and propellers. It is also used in engineering and design to ensure the proper distribution of mass in structures and machines.

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