Moment of inertia of an irregularly shaped object

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The discussion focuses on calculating the moment of inertia of an irregularly shaped object using an experimental setup involving a mass, a cord, and a turntable. The derived formula for moment of inertia is I = mr^2(2gh/v^2 - 1). The user attempts to manipulate the equations to arrive at the correct expression but struggles with the algebraic steps. The key error identified involves properly simplifying the terms and ensuring the correct application of the formula. Ultimately, the correct relationship is confirmed to be I = mr^2(2gh/v^2 - 1).
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This problem describes one experimental method of determining the moment of inertia of an irregularly shaped objectt such as the payload for a satelite. http://home.earthlink.net/~suburban-xrisis/clip2.jpg shows a mass m suspended by a cord wound around a spool of radius r, forming part of a turntable supporting the object. When the mass is released from rest, it descends through a distance h, acquiring a speed v. Show that the moment of inertia I of the equptment (including the turntable) is mr^2(2gh/v^2-1).

here's what I tried, by using this fromula I found in the book:
v=(\frac{2mgh}{m+\frac{I}{r^2}})^{1/2}

v^2(m+\frac{I}{r^2})=2mgh

v^2m+\frac{v^2I}{r^2}=2mgh

\frac{v^2I}{r^2}=2mgh-v^2m

v^2I=2ghmr^2-v^2mr^2

I=\frac{mr^2(2gh-v^2)}{v^2}

I'm not sure how to get the right answer.
 
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Divide each of the terms in the bracket by v^2.
 
I=\frac{mr^2(2gh-v^2)}{v^2}

I=\frac{mr^2}{v^2}*(\frac{2gh}{v^2}-1)

I=\frac{2ghmr^2}{v^4}-\frac{mr^2}{v^2}

I=\frac{mr^22gh-mr^2v^2}{v^4}

I=mr^2\frac{2gh-v^2}{v^4}

I=mr^2\frac{2gh}{v^4}-\frac{1}{2}

This does not equal
mr^2\frac{2gh}{v^2}-1

what did I do wrong?
 
I=\frac{mr^2(2gh-v^2)}{v^2}

I=mr^2 * \frac{2gh-v^2}{v^2}

\frac{2gh-v^2}{v^2} = \frac{2gh}{v^2} - 1

I=mr^2(\frac{2gh}{v^2} - 1)
 
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