Moment of inertia of hollow cylinder, axis orthogonal to length

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The discussion revolves around calculating the moment of inertia of a hollow cylinder with the axis of rotation orthogonal to its length. Participants explore different methods for deriving the moment of inertia, including slicing the cylinder into rods and rings, and reference the Feynman lectures for guidance.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant initially calculates the moment of inertia using the parallel axis theorem and claims to arrive at an incorrect result, suggesting a possible misunderstanding of dimensionality in their approach.
  • Another participant proposes slicing the cylinder into rings instead of rods, arguing that this method simplifies the integration process.
  • A later reply confirms that the initial method was flawed due to the assumption of the cylinder being hollow rather than solid, prompting a recalculation.
  • One participant successfully recalculates the moment of inertia by considering concentric hollow cylinders and summing their individual moments of inertia, aligning with the reference from the Feynman lectures.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the best method to calculate the moment of inertia, with no consensus reached on a single approach. Disagreement exists regarding the initial calculations and assumptions made about the cylinder's properties.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in their approaches, including potential misinterpretations of the cylinder's geometry and the dimensionality of the slices used in calculations. There is also mention of unresolved steps in the mathematical derivation.

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This discussion may be useful for students and enthusiasts of physics, particularly those interested in rotational dynamics and the application of the parallel axis theorem in calculating moments of inertia.

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Hi, I am working through the Feynman lectures on physics and trying to calculate the moment of inertia stated in the title.
(the taxis of rotation going through c.m., orthogonal to length).
My approach is to slice the cylinder into thin rods along the length, using the parallel taxis theorem and the result for a rod.
Unfortunately, I get as result: I = M ( L^2 / 12 + r^2 / 2). I.e. the last numerator comes out as 2 instead of 4, as stated in section
19-2. The corresponding expression comes from summing up dm sum( z_i ^ 2), where dm is the mass of a single rod and z_i
the height of the rod's center of inertia. Perhaps my mistake lies in handling the 2-dim slices as 3-dim rods?
 
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I would slice the cylinder into rings instead. It makes integration far easier.
 
jds17 said:
My approach is to slice the cylinder into thin rods along the length, using the parallel taxis theorem and the resultat for a rod.
Unfortunately, I get as result. I = M ( L^2 / 12 + r^2 / 2). I.e. the last numerator comes out as 2 instead of 4, as stated in section
19-4.
Your method looks OK to me. Feynman lists (in table 19-2) the moment of inertia of a solid cylinder.
 
@Doc Al: Thank you for your reply, I took the cylinder as a hollow one, and this seems to be my mistake. I will try
to do the calculation again for the solid cylinder as soon as I get back home.

@K^2: thank you, too, but I wanted to find out what was wrong with my thinking instead of doing a different
calculation. I will try yours, too, although it seemed more complicated when I first considered it
 
Hi, everything turned out nicely, considering a partition into concentric hollow cylinders, adding their M.I.s (calculated as before) up and going to the limit gives the answer in table 19-2!
 
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