Moment of Inertia of Small Blocks on Rod: 3/4mL^2

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The problem involves calculating the moment of inertia of a system consisting of small blocks with mass m, positioned at the ends and center of a massless rod of length L. The axis of rotation is perpendicular to the rod and located one-fourth of the length from one end.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the moment of inertia formula for a rod and question the validity of using I=1/2mL^2 given the massless nature of the rod.
  • Some participants suggest using the fundamental formula I = mr^2 for point masses instead of the standard rod formulas.
  • There is a recurring inquiry about the calculation leading to 11/16mL^2 and requests for detailed steps.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing with multiple interpretations being explored. Some participants have provided guidance on using the fundamental equation for point masses, while others are questioning the assumptions made regarding the rod's mass and the application of specific formulas.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the rod is of negligible mass, which affects the choice of formulas for calculating moment of inertia. There is also a mention of a link to external resources for further clarification.

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Small blocks, each with mass m, are clamped at the ends and at the center of a rod of length L and negligible mass

Compute the moment of inertia of the system about an axis perpendicular to the rod and passing through a point one-fourth of the length from one end.
Express your answer in terms of the given quantities.



Since I=1/2mL^2 for a system about an axis perpendicular to the rod and passing through the center of the rod, can't I just add 1/4mL^2 + 1/2mL^2 and get 3/4mL^2=I for the equation?
 
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Read the question carefully.

princessfrost said:
Since I=1/2mL^2 for a system about an axis perpendicular to the rod and passing through the center of the rod, can't I just add 1/4mL^2 + 1/2mL^2 and get 3/4mL^2=I for the equation?

Mass moment of Inertia of a rigid uniform rod of length L and mass m about an axis passing through its centre of mass and perpendicular to the length of the rod is given by I = m(L^2)/12. (and not, I=1/2mL^2, as u have quoted.)

Plz note, in the given problem, rod is of negligible mass.. so u can't apply the above formula. Instead, since point masses are involved, you should use the fundamental formula for mass moment of inertia.
 
is it 11/16mL^2 then?
 
princessfrost said:
is it 11/16mL^2 then?

Think of it this way, if you look at the link Astronuc provided, you see that we can use I = mR^2 if we have a massless rod, and a mass at the end of the rod. What you essentially have is two massless rods put into one. The first massless rod will have the length L/4, and the second rod will have the length 3L/4. These are also where the two masses are located relative to the axis of rotation. If you find the moment of inertia for each rod, again, using the equation Astronuc provided, you can add the rotational inertias together to get the total inertia you're looking for.
 
princessfrost said:
is it 11/16mL^2 then?

please show ur steps involved.
 
saket said:
Mass moment of Inertia of a rigid uniform rod of length L and mass m about an axis passing through its centre of mass and perpendicular to the length of the rod is given by I = m(L^2)/12. (and not, I=1/2mL^2, as u have quoted.)

Plz note, in the given problem, rod is of negligible mass.. so u can't apply the above formula. Instead, since point masses are involved, you should use the fundamental formula for mass moment of inertia.

The rod is massless.Hence you just have to use the fundamental equation

I = mr^2
 

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