Moment of inertia of thin rod with non-uniform mass

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The discussion revolves around calculating the moment of inertia of a thin rod with non-uniform mass distribution, specifically focusing on the scenario where the rod is swung from one end. The problem involves understanding how the varying linear density affects the moment of inertia when the axis of rotation is changed.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss integrating the linear density multiplied by the distance squared to find the moment of inertia, questioning the bounds of integration based on the axis of rotation.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the correct treatment of the moment arm when changing the axis of rotation.
  • There are inquiries about the validity of the density function at negative positions and how it affects the calculations.
  • One participant suggests using the parallel axis theorem as a potential approach to simplify the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active with various interpretations being explored. Participants are questioning their assumptions and the implications of the varying density on the moment of inertia. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of moment arms and integration bounds, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted complexity due to the peculiar variation of linear density along the rod, and participants are grappling with how this affects their calculations. The problem setup involves specific constraints regarding the axis of rotation and the interpretation of the density function.

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Homework Statement


A thin rod is exactly 1.9 meters long. The density in this rod varies in a peculiar manner. If we call the left-hand end of the rod x=0 and the right-hand end of the rod x=L , then the linear density can be expressed in units of kilograms per meter as http://coswebhost.rit.edu/webwork2_files/tmp/equations/6b/d06d55bce8c4f91789b960b87d21021.png

You grab the RIGHT-hand end of the rod and prepares to swing the rod this end. What is the moment of inertia of the rod around this end?


The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to intergrate from -L to 0 since your changing the axis of rotation and i got 1.16 kgm^2. You integrate the linear density times x^2 dx if you revolve from the left end , the bounds would be from 0 to L (1.85 kgm^2). The right side though... it doesn't work just the same, what needs to be changed to fufill the question, change of bounds, change of the density equation?
 
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shotgunshogun said:

Homework Statement


A thin rod is exactly 1.9 meters long. The density in this rod varies in a peculiar manner. If we call the left-hand end of the rod x=0 and the right-hand end of the rod x=L , then the linear density can be expressed in units of kilograms per meter as http://coswebhost.rit.edu/webwork2_files/tmp/equations/6b/d06d55bce8c4f91789b960b87d21021.png

You grab the RIGHT-hand end of the rod and prepares to swing the rod this end. What is the moment of inertia of the rod around this end?

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to intergrate from -L to 0 since your changing the axis of rotation and i got 1.16 kgm^2. You integrate the linear density times x^2 dx if you revolve from the left end , the bounds would be from 0 to L (1.85 kgm^2). The right side though... it doesn't work just the same, what needs to be changed to fufill the question, change of bounds, change of the density equation?

What did you try to integrate? Can you show your equation?
 
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I tried to integrate \lambda(x)x^2 from -L to 0
 
shotgunshogun said:
I tried to integrate \lambda(x)x^2 from -L to 0

And not 0 to L ?

Edit: Oops I see they are going to hold it by the other end away from 0
 
OK. You need to revise your treatment of the distance of the moment arm then don't you?

Instead of multiplying by x2 and then integrating 0 to L if you were holding it at the origin, your moment arms now are (L - x)2 aren't they?

Then you can integrate from 0 to L as before?
 
i worked it out and i don't believe it works because the inertia is greater than the first situation. The value should be lower because the mass increases as it approaches 1.9. So when you rotate it from the right side, it should be a lot easier to rotate the object and thus, a lesser value moment of inertia
 
Choosing to go along the negative x-axis still puts your hands on the wrong end of the bat. Besides I'm not certain that λ is valid for -x.

Consider my suggestion a little more carefully.

For any mass element along the X axis you have a mass element of λ (x) a distance of L - x away. Is that not true?
 
The easy way to work this problem is to figure the MMOI with respect to the left end and then use the parallel axis theorem to move it to the right end.
 

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