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The discussion focuses on calculating the net change in entropy when 1.0 kg of water at 20°C is mixed with 1.0 g of ice at 0°C. The heat of fusion of ice is provided as 3.34 x 10^5 J/kg. Participants clarify that the change in entropy for the water is calculated using the heat loss, while the change for the ice involves its heat gain during melting. The correct approach involves summing the entropy changes for both the water and the ice. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the relationship between heat transfer and entropy changes in this thermodynamic scenario.
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In a well-insulated calorimeter, 1.0 kg of water at 20C is mixed with 1.0g of ice at 0C. What is the net change in entropy of the system by the moment the ice completely melts? The heat of fusion of ice is 3.34*10^5 J/kg.

I'm not sure how to do this problem. I thought that since it is 1kg of water, change in entropy for that is -4190/293K. I also though that for the ice, it would be (0.001*3.34*10^5)/273 as well as 4190/273 when it melts.

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Please help.

In a well-insulated calorimeter, 1.0 kg of water at 20C is mixed with 1.0g of ice at 0C. What is the net change in entropy of the system by the moment the ice completely melts? The heat of fusion of ice is 3.34*10^5 J/kg.

I'm not sure how to do this problem. I thought that since it is 1kg of water, change in entropy for that is -4190/293K. I also though that for the ice, it would be (0.001*3.34*10^5)/273 as well as 4190/273 when it melts.
The change in entropy of the water is:

\Delta S_{water} = \Delta Q/T_{water}

where \Delta Q is the heat loss, which is the same as the heat gained by the ice.

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Would Q for water just be -4190, or is there something else involved?
I'm also not sure about the ice.
 
You've already calculated the change of Q of the ice (0.001*3.34*10^5). So the change in entropy of the ice is just (0.001*3.34*10^5)/273, which you've done.
Regarding the change in entropy of the water, the change in Q is just the negative of the Q gained by the ice i.e. it would be -(0.001*3.34*10^5). So the change in entropy of the water is just -(0.001*3.34*10^5)/293. So now you can calculate the net change in entropy by just adding them up :)
Hope you understood that, I'm horrible at explaining things
 
Yeah, thank you =)
 
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