Momentum and springs - A2 Physics

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A train with a mass of 1.02x10^5 kg strikes a spring buffer with a stiffness of 320 kN/m at an initial velocity of 0.15 m/s. The maximum compression of the spring is calculated to be 0.0847 m, using the relationship between kinetic energy and potential energy in the spring. An alternative method involves equating the kinetic energy of the train to the potential energy stored in the spring, leading to the same result. The initial approach, while complex, is validated by the correct answer. Overall, both methods confirm the maximum compression of the spring is 0.0847 m.
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Homework Statement


A train of total mass 1.02x10^5 kg strikes a buffer that behaves like a spring of stiffness 320kN/m with an initial velocity of 0.15m/s
Calculate the maximum compression of the spring.


Homework Equations


P=mv


The Attempt at a Solution


P=mv
= 15300kgm/s

Units of spring stiffness so assumed Stiffness = F/d
P=Ft
F=P/t

so S=P/dt, v=d/t
t=d/v

so, S=Pv/d^2

d^2=Pv/s
d=sqrt (pv/s)
final solution:

sqrt ((1.53x10^4 * 0.15) / 320x10^3)

= 0.0847m compression.


Comments:
Unsure of the real answer, and this method is totally invented. - Nor does it appear to take into account the changing force with respect to distance. - Is there a simpler method I have not taken into account? - This much assumption seems very off compared to the rest of the A2 syllabus

Thanks,
Vanagib.
 
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The answer is correct. (Didn't check your method btw.)
 
Hi Vanagib,

i think you are right


another approach:

If the train is stopped by the spring, the hole kinetic energy of the train is saved in the spring, so

T = V​
\frac{1}{2} m v^2 = \frac{1}{2} k x^2​
x_{max} = \sqrt{\frac{m}{k}} \cdot v = 0.0847 m​

with best regards!
 
That's the correct answer.

a simpler way to do this would to consider the Kinetic/Potential energy systems. The train has initial Kinetic energy found by .5mv^2, and when the train stops the buffer has all of that energy transformed into potential energy, which for a spring is .5kx^2. set the two equal, and simple algebra to solve for x.

but the way you did it is fine too.

edit: it seems as in typing this I've been beat to my explanation, and with Latex too!
 
Many thanks all :)
 
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