More than 1 character for a conjugacy class

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In summary, when solving for the characters of the S_4 group, we can discard the extra solutions of X=3 and x=2 because they are not valid characters. The only valid solutions are X=-1 and x=-\frac{2}{3}. Keep up the good work!
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I am trying to find the characters for the [itex]S_4[/itex] group, in the conjugacy class [itex]K= (..)(..)[/itex] and the two 3 dimensional and one 2 dimensional representations of the group.

I use the relation obtained from the classes' algebra, which after some steps becomes::
[itex] |K|^2 \chi^{\nu} (K) \chi^\nu (K) = d_\nu \Big[ 3 d_\nu + 2 |K| \chi^\nu (K) \Big] [/itex]
after inserting the numbers ([itex]|K|=3, d=3[/itex]) I find for the two 3-dimensional the same equation, and give for those [itex]X[/itex]'s:
[itex] X(K)^2 - 2 X(K) -3 =0 \Rightarrow X=-1, X=3[/itex]

and for the 2-dimensional ([itex]|K|=3, d=2[/itex]), [itex]x[/itex]:
[itex] 3 x(K)^2 - 4 x(K) -4=0 \Rightarrow X=2, X= -\frac{2}{3}[/itex]

Obviously I'm getting the same result as the bibliography but I also get the [itex]X=3[/itex] and [itex]x= - \frac{2}{3}[/itex]... How can I discard them?
 
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Hi there,

First of all, great job on using the relation obtained from the classes' algebra to find the characters for the S_4 group. Let's go through your calculations to see if we can figure out why you are getting the extra solutions of X=3 and x= - \frac{2}{3}.

Starting with the two 3-dimensional representations, we have the equation X(K)^2 - 2 X(K) -3 =0. This is a quadratic equation, and we can use the quadratic formula to solve for X:
X = \frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac}}{2a}
where a=1, b=-2, and c=-3. Plugging in these values, we get:
X = \frac{2 \pm \sqrt{4 - 4(-3)}}{2}
= \frac{2 \pm \sqrt{16}}{2}
= \frac{2 \pm 4}{2}
= -1 or 3
So, we can see that both solutions are valid for this equation. However, since we are looking for the characters for the S_4 group, we can eliminate the solution of X=3 because it is not a valid character. The characters for a group must be integers, and 3 is not an integer.

Moving on to the 2-dimensional representation, we have the equation 3 x(K)^2 - 4 x(K) -4=0. Again, this is a quadratic equation and we can solve for x using the quadratic formula:
x = \frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac}}{2a}
where a=3, b=-4, and c=-4. Plugging in these values, we get:
x = \frac{4 \pm \sqrt{16 - 4(3)(-4)}}{2(3)}
= \frac{4 \pm \sqrt{64}}{6}
= \frac{4 \pm 8}{6}
= 2 or -\frac{2}{3}
So, both solutions are once again valid for this equation. However, we can eliminate the solution of x=2 because it is not a valid character for the S_4 group. The characters for a group must sum to the order of the group, which for S_4 is 24. The character x
 

1. What is a conjugacy class?

A conjugacy class is a set of elements in a group that are all related by conjugation, meaning they have the same structure or properties but differ in specific elements.

2. Can there be more than one character for a conjugacy class?

Yes, it is possible for there to be more than one character for a conjugacy class. This occurs when there are multiple elements in a group that have the same structure or properties but differ in specific elements.

3. How are characters for a conjugacy class determined?

Characters for a conjugacy class are determined by the group's structure and properties, specifically the elements that are related by conjugation. These characters can be calculated using mathematical equations and algorithms.

4. Are characters for a conjugacy class unique?

Yes, characters for a conjugacy class are unique. This means that no two elements in a group will have the same character, even if they are in the same conjugacy class. This uniqueness is what allows for the classification and identification of elements in a group.

5. How are characters for a conjugacy class useful in scientific research?

Characters for a conjugacy class are useful in scientific research because they allow for the classification and identification of elements in a group. This can help researchers understand the structure and properties of a group and make predictions about the behavior of its elements. Additionally, characters for a conjugacy class can be used in various mathematical and computational models to study and solve complex problems related to the group.

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