Motion of a particle in a uniform magnetic field

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The discussion revolves around the motion of a charged particle in a uniform magnetic field, specifically examining the effects of the magnetic field on the particle's velocity components and trajectory. The problem involves understanding the particle's position and velocity after a certain time, given its initial conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the idea that the z component of velocity remains unchanged due to the absence of force in that direction. They consider the helical motion as a combination of circular and linear motion, questioning how to analyze the x and y components. There is discussion about the relevant formulas for the radius of the circular path and the components of velocity contributing to the resultant force.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively questioning the initial conditions of the problem, particularly the lack of a specified starting position. Some suggest that regardless of the starting point, the particle will follow a similar helical path, indicating a productive exploration of the implications of the magnetic field on the particle's motion.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted absence of specified initial position in the problem statement, leading to various interpretations about the particle's trajectory in the XY plane. Participants are considering how this affects the analysis of the motion.

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Homework Statement
A uniform magnetic field exists given by B=b k^ . A particle of mass m and charge q is present in magnetic field has an initial velocity v=v (i^+j^+k^). Find the particle's position and velocity after t seconds.

All i could think is that the z component of velocity will remain unchnged as there is no force in that direction.And for the x and y component can we imagine the helical motion as a superposition of a circle and a straight line.So for x and y component can we solve for a particle moving in a circular path.
Relevant Equations
F=qVBsintheta
Radius=mV/qB
All i could think is that the z component of velocity will remain unchnged as there is no force in that direction.And for the x and y component can we imagine the helical motion as a superposition of a circle and a straight line.So for x and y component can we solve for a particle moving in a circular path.
 
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I believe the correct formula for Radius=mV/(qB). You are correct that the magnetic field will not have a force in the k direction, so you need to figure out the portion of v which is responsible for the resultant force.
 
scottdave said:
I believe the correct formula for Radius=mV/(qB). You are correct that the magnetic field will not have a force in the k direction, so you need to figure out the portion of v which is responsible for the resultant force.
I think they are i and j components.
 
Physics lover said:
Problem Statement: A uniform magnetic field exists given by B=b k^ . A particle of mass m and charge q is present in magnetic field has an initial velocity v=v (i^+j^+k^). Find the particle's position and velocity after t seconds.

All i could think is that the z component of velocity will remain unchnged as there is no force in that direction.And for the x and y component can we imagine the helical motion as a superposition of a circle and a straight line.So for x and y component can we solve for a particle moving in a circular path.
Relevant Equations: F=qVBsintheta
Radius=mV/qB

for x and y component can we solve for a particle moving in a circular path.
Yes. I don't see an initial position specified. Is it the origin?
What do you get for the x and y displacements after time t?
 
haruspex said:
Yes. I don't see an initial position specified. Is it the origin?
What do you get for the x and y displacements after time t?
There is no specified position in the question.I think the particle wil be on the middle of quarter circumference of the circle in the 2nd quadrant.Because then only the direction of force will be pointing towards origin.
 
Physics lover said:
There is no specified position in the question.I think the particle wil be on the middle of quarter circumference of the circle in the 2nd quadrant.Because then only the direction of force will be pointing towards origin.
Wherever the particle starts it will describe an identical helix, just shifted in the XY plane.
 

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