Mouse onto the edge of phonograph turntable

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work required for a mouse to move from the edge to the center of a rotating phonograph turntable. The mouse has a mass of 0.06 kg and the turntable has a radius of 0.3 m, rotating at a constant angular speed of 0.05 rad/s. Participants clarify that since the angular velocity is constant, angular momentum is not conserved, and the work done is related to overcoming the centripetal force. The centripetal acceleration is expressed as a function of radius, leading to the conclusion that the force needed to move inward can be calculated using F_c = mω²r. Ultimately, understanding the relationship between force and displacement is key to solving the problem.
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Homework Statement


mmouse = 0.06kg

r = 0.3m

\omega = 0.05 rad / s

Suppose angular speed does not change.
What is the work needed for the mouse to go to the center.

Homework Equations



Io\omegao = If\omegaf


The Attempt at a Solution



If \omega doesn't change ,then how can I use the above equation.

Since I of mouse would be equal to mr^2 then \omega would change. I am stuck here. Oh, and it's not a homework, it's a problem that I was stuck at some time ago. Thanks for any help
 
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tonit said:

Homework Equations



Io\omegao = If\omegaf


The Attempt at a Solution



If \omega doesn't change ,then how can I use the above equation.
You can't. If ω is fixed then angular momentum is not conserved.
 
So in this case would the work be equal to: mr^2 ?
 
tonit said:
So in this case would the work be equal to: mr^2 ?
That's an expression for rotational inertia, not work.

Can you please state the full problem as it was given?
 
A 60 gm mouse falls onto the outer edge of a phonograph turntable of radius 30 cm rotating at 33rev/min. How much work must it do to walk into the center post? Assume that the angular velocity of the turntable doesn't change.
 
Seems like you just need to find out the centripetal force that the mouse feels and then you'll have the work. Though I could be wrong.
 
hi tonit! :smile:
tonit said:
A 60 gm mouse falls onto the outer edge of a phonograph turntable of radius 30 cm rotating at 33rev/min. How much work must it do to walk into the center post? Assume that the angular velocity of the turntable doesn't change.

yes, work done is the integral of force "dot" displacement

so, first, what is the force needed, as a function of r ? :wink:
 
There is a centripetal acceleration associated with rotation at constant angular velocity, a_c = \omega^2 r. So if my suspicions are correct, you can interpret that as a force that must be overcome, F_c = m \omega^2 r
 
thanks to all of you. now it is all clear :D
 
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