Multiple electrodes - capacitance.

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To find the capacitance between multiple electrodes placed inside a pipe, understanding their geometric arrangement is crucial. The capacitance can be calculated using the formula C = e(A/d), where e is the dielectric constant, A is the area of the plates, and d is the distance between them. If the distance d is not small compared to the plate size, the simple formula may not be accurate, necessitating direct measurement. A capacitance meter or an oscilloscope can be used for this purpose, especially if the discharge time is short. Accurate measurements will depend on the specific configuration and materials used in the setup.
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Hey,
I have a length of pipe. Inside the pipe walls I have placed four electrodes. If one is giving out
x volts, and I know the dielectric constant of the material between them, is there an easy way of finding the capacitance on the other three electrodes?

I'm looking for hints as well as good resources on the subject.

Thank you.
 
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It really depends on the geometric placement.

What's an electrode?
 
By electrodes I mean plates of some metal.

Let's say the plates are facing each other if you know what I mean..
 
Dafe said:
By electrodes I mean plates of some metal.

Let's say the plates are facing each other if you know what I mean..

You're language is hard to follow, but you should elaborate more. Are they stacked like coins with some space in between? What's the spacing.

The "capacitance on them" doesn't mean anything. You might validly ask about the capacitance between two plates (or electrodes). Each plate can have a voltage relative to some other plate. The pipe itself is a "plate".
 
Let's say that the pipe is made of glass.
I make four rectangular shapes of some metal.
I glue them inside the pipe walls.
I have a battery connected to one of the metal shapes.
Can I then find out the capacitance on the other metal shapes?

Is this a better explanation?

Thank you for your patience!
 
C = e(A/d)

For d is small compared to the size of the plate:

C is the capacitance between[i/] two plates.
e is the dialectric constant of the material
A is the area of a plate
d is the distance between them
 
What if d is not small compared to the size of the plates?
 
Then the simple formula Phrak gave is not accurate. You would have to measure the capacitance.

It can be measured with a capacitance meter (some DVM's have that feature). Or measure the time to discharge the cap through a resistor by measuring the capacitor voltage during discharge -- either with a DVM if the discharge time is longer than several seconds, or on an oscilloscope if the discharge time is shorter.

From your description, it sounds like you would a capacitance meter or an oscilloscope -- discharge time should much faster than 1 sec if d is the thickness of a glass pipe.
 
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