Multiplication of two matrices

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The discussion centers around the multiplication of two matrices, specifically exploring the implications of matrix products when one matrix has infinite solutions and the other has no solutions. The scope includes theoretical aspects of linear algebra, particularly related to matrix equations and their solutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the meaning of a matrix having "no solutions" or "infinite solutions," suggesting a need for clarification regarding matrix equations like Ax=b.
  • Another participant proposes that the rank of the product AB is less than or equal to the minimum of the ranks of A and B, indicating that this relationship may help in understanding the solutions of the matrix product.
  • A participant clarifies that if Bv=0 has infinite solutions, then ABv=0 also has infinite solutions, provided A is singular.
  • There is a discussion about whether the conditions of A being a matrix with no solution can be interpreted correctly, as one participant states that Ax=0 always has the solution x=0.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about the prerequisites for understanding the concepts discussed, specifically mentioning a lack of familiarity with rank and vector spaces.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the definitions of matrices with no solutions or infinite solutions, and there are differing interpretations of how these definitions apply to the product of matrices. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these conditions on the matrix product AB.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the foundational concepts necessary to fully engage with the discussion, indicating that knowledge of rank and vector spaces may be relevant but is not yet acquired by all contributors.

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Hi, thank you for viewing this thread. My question is as follow:

Suppose A is a n x m matrix and B is a m x n matrix, and we also know that the matrix B has infinite solutions, then what will the solution/s of the matix product AB be? I am thinking that it might be a matrix of infinite solutions, but is there a proof to show this case?

Now suppose we let A be a n x m matrix with no solution, and the conditions for B in the previous paragraph still hold. Then what will the solution of the matrix product AB be in this case? Just wondering if there is a proof to illustrate this case again?
 
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What do you mean by a matrix with no solutions or infinite solutions? Are you referring to a matrix equation Ax=b, and solving for x?
 
I think the result that you need is

[tex]\operatorname{rank}(AB) \leq \min(\operatorname{rank}\,A, \operatorname{rank}\,B)[/tex]

If [tex]\operatorname{rank}\,C < \operatorname{dim}\,C[/tex] then the system of equations [tex]C\cdot x = b[/tex] does not have a unique solution, but rather "infinite solutions" that span a space of dimension [tex]\operatorname{dim}\,C-\operatorname{rank}\,C[/tex].

Now let [tex]C = A\cdot B[/tex] where [tex]B[/tex] is not of maximal rank (as in your question) and you can work out the answer...
 
Hi, sorry for the confusion caused, actually what i meant is having matix B in the form Bx=0 and having infinite solutions, so will the multiplication of matrix A onto Bx=0, ABx=0,result in a product where there are infinite solutions as well, regardless of what A is? Is there a proof in showing it?

Now if we change the conditions to let the matrix A of the equation Ax=0 be a matrix with no solution, while the conditions for B still hold. So will the product ABx=0 changes anything as compared to the first question?

Erm,I have just started Linear Algebra and have not gone into rank/ vector spaces yet. Is the mentioned topic a prequsite to understanding/ proving this concept?
 
If Bv= 0 has an infinite number of solutions, then A(Bv)= A(0)= 0 for every such v and so ABv= 0 also has an infinite number of solutions. In fact, if A itself is singular, then there may exist MORE solution that just those such that B= 0.

Now, "Now suppose we let A be a n x m matrix with no solution", if you still mean Ax= 0, is impossible. That always has the solution x= 0.
 

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