Multipole expansion. Problems with understanding derivatives

In summary, The student attempted to find the multipole expansion of a function using the Taylor series. However, they ran into trouble with the derivates and needed help from the teacher.
  • #1
Lindsayyyy
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Hi everyone

Homework Statement



I want to find the multipole expansion of

[tex] \Phi(\vec r)= \frac {1}{4\pi \epsilon_0} \int d^3 r' \frac {\rho(\vec r')}{|\vec r -\vec r'|}[/tex]

Homework Equations



Taylor series

The Attempt at a Solution



My attempt at a solution was to use the Taylor series. I tried to approach 1/|r-r'| around r'/r (that's what the task told me to, because r>>r').

I found the taylor series for [tex] \frac {1}{\sqrt{(1-x)}}[/tex]

Which I can use I guess for this problem, where my x is:
[tex]2 \frac {\vec r\vec r'}{r^2} -\frac {r'^2}{r^2}[/tex]

so I get

[tex] \frac {1}{| \vec r - \vec r'|}= \frac {1}{r} \frac {1}{\sqrt{ 1- 2 \frac {\vec r \vec r'}{r^2} + \frac {r'^2}{r^2}}} [/tex]But now I'm stuck. I don't know how to handle the derivates. Do I only have to derive the vector r' with nabla or r'^2 aswell?

Thanks for your help in advance.
 
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  • #2
If I understand your question, you will need to take partial derivatives of the r'2 term as well as the r##\cdot##r' term with respect to x', y', and z'. Just think of the argument of the square root as some function of x', y', and z'.
 
  • #3
Use the vector form of Taylor Expansion i.e.
f(x+h) = f(x) + (h.grad)f(x) + [(h.grad)^2]f(x) + ...

where x and h are vectors, grad is the usual gradient operator and "." indicates the dot product.
 
  • #4
Thanks for your help. I know that this has something to do with Nabla, but I don't understand why I have to use Nabla here actually.
 
  • #5
you just have to use the binomial expansion for the term which you got in op.Different higher order terms in r'/r represents monopoles,dipoles,quadrupoles etc.
 
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Lindsayyyy said:
Thanks for your help. I know that this has something to do with Nabla, but I don't understand why I have to use Nabla here actually.

I think what you're referring to as nabla is what I call grad.

Just do the vector taylor expansion as I mentioned, this was the box standard thing to do back in electrodynamics exams. Oh, and use summation convention to make life easier.
 

1. What is a multipole expansion?

A multipole expansion is a mathematical technique used to approximate a complicated function or physical quantity as a sum of simpler functions or quantities. It is commonly used in physics and engineering to simplify complex systems or problems.

2. How is a multipole expansion different from a Taylor series?

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