Natural Convection vertical heated flat plate

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the analysis of natural convection heat transfer from a vertical heated flat plate using Finite Element Analysis (FEA) modeling. The participant seeks to compare theoretical results with those obtained from FEA software, focusing on the discrepancies in temperature values and the challenges in determining theoretical values.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their use of FEA modeling for a vertical heated flat plate, noting discrepancies between the software results and theoretical expectations.
  • The participant provides specific parameters for their analysis, including a heat transfer rate (q) of 30W, an ambient air temperature (Ta) of 22 degrees Celsius, and the dimensions of the plate.
  • They reference relevant equations for heat transfer, specifically q=ha(Ts-Ta) and q=mass flow rate * Cp(Ts-Ta), but express uncertainty regarding the unknown variables involved.
  • Another participant inquires about the meaning of "s/w," which is clarified as "software."
  • A later reply seeks clarification on the conditions of the analysis, asking whether the plate is in an infinite medium or an enclosed space, and whether the analytic solution pertains to constant heat flux or constant temperature.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion does not present a consensus, as participants are exploring different aspects of the problem and seeking clarification on various points without arriving at a definitive agreement.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of modeling natural convection, with uncertainties regarding the changing temperature of air away from the heated plate and the conditions under which the theoretical analysis is conducted.

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1. I am using FEA modelling for a vertical heated flat plate and I need to compare theoretical results with the FEA s/w modelling results. I have completed the model in FEA s/w and I'm getting different values for temperatures and because I can't work out theoretical values then I do not know which run of the s/w is correct. The problem I am looking at is natural convection of a vertical flat plate. I have been give q=30W, ambient air temp of 22 degrees and also dimensions of the plate 106x106mm, hence surface area of 0.112m^2.

Homework Equations


I believe the relevant equation is q=ha(Ts-Ta) or q= mass flow rate *Cp(Ts-Ta)

The Attempt at a Solution


My attempt is to look at the equation above. I know that q is 30W and I know that a is the surface area and I also know that Ta is 22 degrees (temp of air). This seems to be an equation though with 3 unknowns - I know the ambient air temp is 22 degrees however the temp of the air a distance away from the heated plate will be changing as convection takes place.
 
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Christy001 said:
1. I am using FEA modelling for a vertical heated flat plate and I need to compare theoretical results with the FEA s/w modelling results. I have completed the model in FEA s/w and I'm getting different values for temperatures and because I can't work out theoretical values then I do not know which run of the s/w is correct. The problem I am looking at is natural convection of a vertical flat plate. I have been give q=30W, ambient air temp of 22 degrees and also dimensions of the plate 106x106mm, hence surface area of 0.112m^2.

Homework Equations


I believe the relevant equation is q=ha(Ts-Ta) or q= mass flow rate *Cp(Ts-Ta)

The Attempt at a Solution


My attempt is to look at the equation above. I know that q is 30W and I know that a is the surface area and I also know that Ta is 22 degrees (temp of air). This seems to be an equation though with 3 unknowns - I know the ambient air temp is 22 degrees however the temp of the air a distance away from the heated plate will be changing as convection takes place.
You're analyzing steady state natural convection heat transfer from a vertical flat plate, and you don't get a match between the analytic and numerical temperature profiles, correct? Is the plate in an infinite ocean of air, or is it in an enclosed space? Is the analytic solution for constant heat flux or for constant temperature?
 

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