Navigate the Res-Monster Maze: Find R's Current

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The discussion focuses on calculating the current through resistor R in a complex circuit with multiple resistors and batteries. Participants emphasize the importance of applying the loop rule correctly, noting that current is shared among different loops, which complicates direct calculations. The potential difference across the ideal batteries remains constant, and understanding the path taken through the circuit is crucial for accurate calculations. Clarification is sought on how to approach the circuit without inadvertently sharing current with other resistors. Ultimately, determining the potential difference across R is key to finding the current through it.
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Homework Statement


Res-monster maze. In Fig. 27-21, all the resistors have a resistance of 4.0 and all the (ideal) batteries have an emf of 4.0 V. What is the current through resistor R? (If you can find the proper loop through this maze, you can answer the question with a few seconds of mental calculation.)

Homework Equations


V = IR

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Can't I just use the loop rule which says that the sum of all the voltage drops in a closed loop is equal to zero? So I would just go around the smallest loop that encompasses the R, and I'd have
ε - IR - IR = 0 -> I = ε/2R but this isn't correct.
 

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No, you can't do that. For the loop that you selected, the current (I) is shared by other loops.
 
But if I don't go through any other resistors besides R, and take a circle around the circuit back to R (going through a few potentials), that path doesn't share it's current with other loops? What's the thought process for that?
 
Can you draw the loop you selected on the drawing?

In the problem statement, all the resistors have a value of 4 ohms. I would label them all r. The unknown R could have some other value.

Is your equation involved with both r plus R? Please show a sketch.
 
L_landau said:
But if I don't go through any other resistors besides R, and take a circle around the circuit back to R (going through a few potentials), that path doesn't share it's current with other loops? What's the thought process for that?
Uh ... you really need to rethink that.
 
L_landau said:
But if I don't go through any other resistors besides R, and take a circle around the circuit back to R (going through a few potentials), that path doesn't share it's current with other loops? What's the thought process for that?
You can take the potential zero at point O. What is the potential at A? Find a path from O to A going through batteries only.
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L_landau said:
But if I don't go through any other resistors besides R, and take a circle around the circuit back to R (going through a few potentials), that path doesn't share it's current with other loops? What's the thought process for that?
The potential difference across an ideal battery stays the same if you connect anything to its terminals. If you know the potential difference across R you can get the current through it.
 
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