Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the search for a blower capable of producing a flow of approximately 150 cfm while pumping hydrogen gas (H2) that is already pressurized at around 40 bar. The participants explore the feasibility of using different types of blowers or compressors to achieve a pressure increase of about 5 bar.
Discussion Character
- Technical explanation
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant inquires whether the hydrogen is already pressurized or if the blower is expected to pressurize it, highlighting the non-standard nature of the application.
- Another participant clarifies that only about 1 bar of pressure rise is needed across the blower, indicating a reevaluation of the requirements.
- A suggestion is made to consider New York Blower for industrial solutions, noting that their highest pressure blower is rated for about 0.3 bar dP, and they may offer custom designs.
- Concerns are raised about the energy requirements for the application, with calculations provided for the power needed at specific conditions, emphasizing the challenges of finding off-the-shelf solutions due to the high pressure involved.
- Participants discuss the suitability of centrifugal compressors and reciprocating machines for handling higher pressures, with a mention of diaphragm machines as an option due to their lack of dynamic seals.
- There is a suggestion to consider custom-made solutions for continuous processes and a recommendation to contact manufacturers for specialized equipment.
- It is noted that hydrogen leakage through seals in centrifugal or reciprocating machines must be managed, indicating a need for proper gas routing.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express a consensus that off-the-shelf solutions are unlikely to meet the specific requirements due to the high pressure, but there is no agreement on the best approach or specific equipment to use, indicating multiple competing views on the solution.
Contextual Notes
The discussion highlights limitations related to the availability of standard equipment for high-pressure hydrogen applications and the need for custom solutions, but does not resolve the specifics of the optimal machine type.