Need help identifying this rock, Found in northern MN

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The discussion revolves around identifying a rock found in northern Minnesota. Participants explore various characteristics of the rock, including its texture and composition, while considering geological processes that may have contributed to its presence in the area.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest the rock is a porphyritic basalt, noting its large phenocrysts of plagioclase feldspar and fine-grained matrix of olivine and pyroxenes.
  • Others propose it may be a rhombic porphyry, questioning its presence in Minnesota as such rocks are typically found in Scandinavia.
  • A participant mentions the rock's rounded and river-worn characteristics, hypothesizing it was transported by glacial activity from a volcanic source in Canada.
  • Another participant describes the rock as a "pudding stone," differentiating it from volcanic rocks based on its sedimentary nature.
  • There is a discussion about the potential value of the rock, with some suggesting it may not be worth much unless polished.

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Participants generally agree that the rock is likely a type of basalt, but there are competing views regarding its classification and origin. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple hypotheses presented.

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Participants express uncertainty about the rock's exact classification and value, with some relying on personal experience and others referencing geological concepts. The discussion includes assumptions about glacial transport and the geological history of the Great Lakes region.

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@jim mcnamara it looks like he was able to upload it now.

@ReevesN76R -- Welcome to the PF. Can you take a closeup picture of the marks on the rock? Are those marks (like drawn), or are they something embedded?
 
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@jim mcnamara it looks like he was able to upload it now.

@ReevesN76R -- Welcome to the PF. Can you take a closeup picture of the marks on the rock? Are those marks (like drawn), or are they something embedded?
They are embedded.
 

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The porphyritic basalt seems to be correct. I have been collecting rocks and minerals for 55 years.
 
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Cool rock.
 
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a rhombic porphyry most likely - how come you found it in Minesota, tough? They are more common in the scandinavian region around Oslo, Norway. :wink:
 
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GeologyRocks1909 said:
how come you found it in Minesota
The rock is rounded and river worn, so it was not taken directly from an outcrop. It has probably been carried by a glacier or an ice sheet during the last glacial period. It may have traveled a long way south from some volcanics in Canada.
I have found identifiable rocks in unexpected places, but only where glaciation was available to transport them.
 
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It looks like what I have known as a "pudding stone"
 
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gleem said:
It looks like what I have known as a "pudding stone"
Pudding stone is a sedimentary "conglomerate" of rounded pebbles in a fine matrix. It looks like a cut slice through a plum pudding.

The rock pictured was volcanic, having a fine green basalt matrix with large phenocrysts of feldspar. A rock with phenocrysts is described as a porphyry, or as being porphyritic. The phenocrysts are crystallised out of the melt over many years as the magma gradually rises up towards a volcanic vent. The fine grained matrix indicates that it cooled quickly once it reached the surface which is why it is known to be a volcanic rock.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenocrysts
 
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Does the rock have any value?
 
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As is, not really worth much.

If you like rock cutting and polishing, it would sell for a fair amount after it was polished on a cut through the middle.
Go to a local natural history museum store or one of the places that sell display quality minerals. You can get a good idea. Some mineral collectors use a rock tumbler only to polish. No cut.

My wife did this for fun and the results were amazing.
 
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