Need help solving an exact differential equation

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The discussion revolves around solving the exact differential equation given by 2xy³ + (1 + 3x²y²)dy/dx = 0. Participants are exploring the process of verifying the equation's exactness and integrating the corresponding functions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to confirm the exactness of the equation by calculating partial derivatives and integrating the function M with respect to x. Some participants question whether integrating N with respect to y is necessary, leading to differing interpretations of the integration process.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing their approaches to integrating the functions and reconciling different forms of the potential function f(x, y). There is a recognition of the need to consider both integrations, and some guidance is provided on how to handle the functions of integration.

Contextual Notes

There is some uncertainty regarding the necessity of integrating both M and N, as well as the implications of the functions g(y) and h(x) in the context of the solution. Participants are navigating these assumptions without reaching a consensus.

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Homework Statement


solve 2xy^3+(1+3x^2y^2)dy/dx=0


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The Attempt at a Solution


first i made sure this is exact by finding the partial on m with respect to y and the partial of n with respect to x. it is exact.

next i integrate M with respect to x...i get x^2y^3+g(y)

next i take the partial with respect to y and get 3x^2y^2+g'(y)

now this is were I am not sure if I am doing it right.

i set this equal to N(x,y) so i get g'(y) = 1 then integrate to get g(y) = y

my answer is x^2y^3+y but I am not sure. please help
 
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hachi_roku said:

Homework Statement


solve 2xy^3+(1+3x^2y^2)dy/dx=0


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


first i made sure this is exact by finding the partial on m with respect to y and the partial of n with respect to x. it is exact.

next i integrate M with respect to x...i get x^2y^3+g(y)
For the next line, don't you want to integrate N with respect to y?
hachi_roku said:
next i take the partial with respect to y and get 3x^2y^2+g'(y)

now this is were I am not sure if I am doing it right.

i set this equal to N(x,y) so i get g'(y) = 1 then integrate to get g(y) = y

my answer is x^2y^3+y but I am not sure. please help
 
i thought you only had to do one?
if i integrate N with respect to y, i get y+x^2y^3
 
hachi_roku said:
i thought you only had to do one?
if i integrate N with respect to y, i get y+x^2y^3
No, you have to do both.
When I integrate N with respect to y, I get something different, namely y + x2y3 + h(x), which is different from what you show. That h(x) is somewhat like the constant of integration that you're supposed to add on when you do an indefinite integral.

In your earlier work, you have f(x, y) = x2y3 + g(y), where g is a function of y alone.
In my work, I have f(x, y) = y + x2y3 + h(x).

Now we have to reconcile these two views of f(x, y). The g(y) you showed has to be equal to y. The h(x) that I show doesn't show up in the other view of f(x, y), so h(x) = 0.

This means that f(x, y) = x2y3 + y.

You can check this by taking both partials: fx should be equal to M = 2xy3, and fy = N = 1 + 3x2y.


Finally, your differential equation amounts to this:
df(x, y) = 0
I.e., the total derivative of f(x, y) = 0

If the derivative of some function = 0, what can you say about that function?
 

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