Need help with rotational problems/angular speed

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The discussion revolves around solving three rotational physics problems involving angular speed and energy. The first problem requires finding the final angular speed and time for a wheel accelerating from rest, with confusion noted about unit conversions from revolutions to radians and the correct application of angular acceleration. The second problem involves calculating the final speed of a potter's wheel using the work-energy theorem, with participants discussing the appropriate equations and values to use. The third problem focuses on determining the vertical height a motorcycle can reach while coasting uphill, with issues raised about mass calculations and speed conversions. Overall, the thread highlights common challenges in applying rotational dynamics concepts and equations correctly.
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HI, i have three problems that i have tried but failed here they are

Homework Statement


SOLVED 1.) A wheel turns through 4 revolutions while being accelerated from rest at 20rpm/s.
a)find the final angular speed b) find the time it takes to turn 4 revolutions

2.) A potter's wheel is a stone disk 85 cm in diameter with a mass of 120 kg. If the potter's foot pushes at the outer edge of the initially stationary wheel with a 80 N force for one-eighth of a revolution, what will be the final speed? Use the work-energy theorem.

3.)A 320 kg motorcycle includes two wheels, each of which is 52 cm in diameter and has rotational inertia 2.1 kg·m2. The cycle and its 74 kg rider are coasting at 87 km/h on a flat road when they encounter a hill. If the cycle rolls up the hill with no applied power and no significant internal friction, what vertical height will it reach?


Homework Equations



1.) omega final^2= omega initial squared +2a(angular position)/ omega final=omega initial +at
2.) I used W=1/2I wf^2 -1/2I wi^2
3.) tried using the v center of mass= sqrt of (2mgh)/(M+I/(R^2))

The Attempt at a Solution


for the first one i plugged in everything but i get the wrong answer i think its because of the revolutions, but i changed that to rad and the 20rpm/s i left it since the answer has to be in rpm
2.) SInce it told me to use the work energy theorem i tried pluggin in the 1/2mr^2 for I sicne its a disk and 80N for W as well as the 120kg for mass but... i keep getting the wrong answer... did i use the wrong equation or?
3.) for number I am not sure if the equation is the correct one.. i tried plugging in the numbers but then for mass i plugged in 320+74 too have the combined mass of 394 and changed the 87 km/h to 24.2 m/s but the answer was wrong so that didnt work out...so I am stumped...


thank you in advance
 
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Hi silentsaber! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(have an omega: ω and an alpha: α and a theta: θ and try the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)
silentsaber said:
1.) A wheel turns through 4 revolutions while being accelerated from rest at 20rpm/s.
a)find the final angular speed b) find the time it takes to turn 4 revolutions

1.) omega final^2= omega initial squared +2a(angular position)/ omega final=omega initial +at

for the first one i plugged in everything but i get the wrong answer i think its because of the revolutions, but i changed that to rad and the 20rpm/s i left it since the answer has to be in rpm

ωf2 = ωf2 + 2αθ is the right equation …

and all the given units are in revolutions, so that's ok, no need to change to radians …

perhaps you didn't convert α from rpm/s into rps/s ? :wink:
 
would teh accleration then be 2.094rps? not sure what to do about the bottom second because i tried inputting that and got it wrong as well =/
 
silentsaber said:
would teh accleration then be 2.094rps? not sure what to do about the bottom second because i tried inputting that and got it wrong as well =/

(you mean 2.094rps2)

nooo … you've included a 2π … you don't need to :smile:
 
omg THANX!
 
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