Newton law, An object hanged with a robe that has a weight.

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The discussion focuses on calculating the tension in a rope supporting a 50 kg object and a 12.2 kg wire. The initial calculation suggests a total weight of 610.182 N, but the distribution of the wire's mass complicates the tension assessment. Participants debate whether the tension is uniform along the rope or varies based on position due to the wire's weight. It is clarified that tension is not constant when the rope has mass, as different points along the rope experience varying forces. The conversation concludes with uncertainty about the specific tension values needed for the problem.
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Homework Statement


An object 50kg is hanged with a wire that wights 12,2kg


Homework Equations


what's the tension in the robe


The Attempt at a Solution


W - T = 0
(50+12,2)* 9,81 = 0
T = 610.182 N
 
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chawki said:

Homework Statement


An object 50kg is hanged with a wire that wights 12,2kg


Homework Equations


what's the tension in the robe


The Attempt at a Solution


W - T = 0
(50+12,2)* 9,81 = 0
T = 610.182 N

Is the mass of the wire all located at the 50kg object end, or is it evenly distributed along the length of the wire? If it is distributed, do you think this might affect the tension with respect to position along the wire?
 
It is distributed.
 
chawki said:
It is distributed.

Then you'll have to take that into account and develop an expression that yields the tension with respect to position along the wire. Or do you just need the maximum or minimum tensions?
 
I' not sure, they just asked what's the tension in the robe.
I think the tension at both edges of the robe is the same?
 
chawki said:
I' not sure, they just asked what's the tension in the robe.
I think the tension at both edges of the robe is the same?

Presumably by "robe" you mean "rope"? And this rope is really the same as the wire mentioned in the problem statement?

Consider a rope hanging under gravity from a fixed point. The top of the rope has to hold up the weight of the entire rope below it. The middle of the rope only has to hold up the half of the rope that is below it. The very bottom of the rope has nothing below it, so it does not have to hold up anything. What is the relationship between the magnitudes of the tensions at these three locations?
 
Tension in string is constant if rope is massless

But here the mass is distributed so tension is different at different points of rope

at which point do u exactly need tension??
 
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